Talk:Russell Brothers

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Question about a biography of a living criminal

I am posting here not to report an incident but to ask advice about an article still in my sandbox. Below is a communication I sent and the response I received:

I'm working on an article about a prominent Nashville businessman who turned into a major cocaine smuggler (as in Breaking Bad), Russell Brothers. It is a fascinating story but I have had second thoughts about it because the subject is still alive and due to be released from prison in December of 2016. Even though his name and exploits have been on the front pages of many newspapers in Tennessee and elsewhere, something about this gives me pause. He still has an opportunity to live some more years. I'm sure he will eventually be on Wikipedia, but I'm inclined to hold the article for a while, maybe even until his death — he is 78 now. Please take a look. Your thoughts ?

Regards as always, Eagledj (talk) 17:40, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Eagledj. As always, you're doing a bang up job in composing the article! By the sources you've uncovered and cited it appears his criminal convictions were rather notorious, with a fair amount of coverage in reliable, secondary, independent sources. These are convictions so there's no WP:BLPCRIME issue. So I guess the question is, is he sufficiently a public figure? Is this beyond just routine news coverage (I think it is). However, you are not just using newspapers but court cases as sources to verify facts about his criminal history, which seems to be in conflict with WP:BLPPRIMARY. What I think you should do is ask for some more eyes, of people who are very familiar with these issues, to give you their opinion, and the forum for that appears to be the Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard. It's true that that page's statement of purpose indicates it's more for reporting potential BLP violations, but it seems the best place to find people highly experienced in this area to take a look, and I can't imagine anyone turning you away because you're not reporting an incident but seeking advice.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:52, 6 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

We talked before about the article Russell Brothers. You suggested HERE that I I put the article up on the BLP noticeboard which i did HERE — but so far no response. Should I just wait longer on the noticeboard, (it's been archived already), submit it to WP:AFC ? or should I just go ahead a post the article to mainspace and wait for page patrollers to review it? As always, Cheers--Eagledj (talk) 16:55, 29 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Addendum—Regarding WP:BLPPRIMARY question, I believe the primary-source material here has been discussed by a reliable secondary source, so it may be acceptable to rely on it to augment the secondary source.--Eagledj (talk) 22:48, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]