Talk:SK Rapid Wien

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Celtic Section[edit]

I've removed this section because there are numerous problems with it. Firstly, it should not be in the honours section of the article. Secondly, it is far too long and in depth for this article as it's almost the same length as the entire history of Rapid Wien and is far too focused on the Celtic aspect of the story. Lastly, it is not written in an encylopedic tone and uses phrases such as "the Austrian side were ripped apart" and "truly world-class performance" which are not suitable for this type of article.

I'm fully in favour of putting it back into the article, but it can't go in with the present format. It needs to be shorter and only include those aspects relevant to Rapid Wien - not, for instance, a commentary on the fact that it was "one of Celtic's best European performances since the Jock Stein era". I've put the full text below which the author can reintegrate into the article in an acceptable way.

CONTROVERSY WITH CELTIC

In 1984, Rapid Vienna took part in a controversial European Cup Winner's Cup tie with Glasgow Celtic. After winning the first leg 3-1 in Vienna, Rapid looked favourites to go through.

At Celtic Park, on 7 November 1984, however, the Austrian side were ripped apart, as goals by McClair, (32 mins) McLeod (45 mins) and Tommy Burns (68 mins) put the Scots 3-0 up. Inspired by a truly world-class performance by 20-year old midfield international player, Paul McStay, Celtic also hit the bar and post and created several other clear-cut chances. 24 years later, it is still widely regarded as one of Celtic's best European performances since the Jock Stein era of the late 1960s-early 1970s, when they had become European champions.

Towards the end of the match, and with Rapid's composure completely gone, Celtic were awarded a penalty, (later missed by Peter Grant) after their midfielder Tommy Burns was punched by Reinhard Kienast. As the referee consulted with his linesman, a bottle was thrown onto the park by a Celtic fan. The bottle landed on the ground, well away from the players, but one Rapid player, Rudolf Weinhofer, fell down, claiming to have been injured by the missile. TV evidence showed he had not been hit, but Rapid appealed to UEFA for a replay and eventually, at the second hearing, they got their wish.

A replay was ordered to take place at least 100 miles away from Celtic Park. The game eventually took place at Old Trafford, home of Manchester Utd on 12 December 1984. Rapid won the game 1-0 to proceed to the last 8 of the tournament. They would eventually reach the final, before losing 3-1 to Everton.

Scorelines and attendances

24-10-84 Rapid Vienna 3 Celtic 1 (15,000)
7-11-84  Celtic 3 Rapid Vienna 0 (49,000)

12-10-84 Celtic 0 Rapid Vienna 1 ( 51,000,

Blankfrackis (talk) 23:05, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I've never heard about Celtic fans attacking Vienna's players during the replay. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but surely an allegation like that must have a source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.62.251.36 (talk) 12:00, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah - where is the evidence? Celtic nor there fans were punished for "attacking Rapid players" so where is this evidence?

Check youtube; a fan cornered the goalkeeper in the goal and punched him before being dragged off by police. Another played was kicked in the balls whilst leaving the pitch.

The attack against the goalkeeper can bes seen here: [1] --MrBurns (talk) 11:17, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Stadium[edit]

The Stadiumcapacity is just 17.500. You can see it on http://www.skrapid.at/9626.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by CoinOperator (talkcontribs) 13:57, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Poor "SK Rapid"[edit]

They try to get the image of the poor club, but they are well funded. Their main sponsor "Wien Energie" is owned by the city of Vienna and a lot of other sponsors are connected with public enterprises due to the fact that the chairman Rudolf Edlinger is a former minister. I would be very glad, if this part of the article will be deleted.--Werner100359 (talk) 12:18, 31 March 2011 (UTC)


This paragraph should be deleted completely: Although Rapid is by far the most popular club in Austria[citation needed], teams with significantly stronger financial backing such as Red Bull Salzburg and FK Magna are able to spend much more money on players. Rapid is trying to remain competitive by focusing on developing and supporting younger talent.

1) It goes without saying that it is only the author's personal opinion that Rapid Vienna is Austria's "most popular club". 2) The days when FK Austria Vienna was called "FK Austria Magna" or "FK Magna" ended in July 2008, as did their lucrative sponsorship deal with Magna International. 3) Apart from FC Red Bull Salzburg, who are a department of a multi-billion-dollar enterprise, Rapid Vienna is definitely one of the financially most potent clubs in Austria, currently probably in the number 2 position behind FC Salzburg, as far as seasonal budgets are concerned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.191.122.162 (talk) 17:48, 26 June 2012 (UTC)