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What is this, an ad for SableVM? Doesn't seem like Encyclopedia material to me. --Doradus 03:14, 5 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I know, I don't like all these SableVM either. Fixing this has been on my list since I wrote the page.

I'll do this sooner or later. --gadek

I'm pretty much suggesting we delete this page. I can't see any value in it.
--Doradus 18:55, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I removed yelling, bolds etc, made it look more normal (good!). If you have any further comments or even better concrete ideas/hints what to improve or what's exactly still wrong - I am all ears.

--gadek Fri Dec 12 12:39:32 UTC 2003
I guess that's an improvement, but (sorry to be blunt) it's still bogus and I'd still vote to delete it. It still doesn't look like any encyclopedia entry I've ever seen. An encyclopedia entry should dispassionately describe the subject, give some history, describe the people involved, the project's significance, its relation to other similar projects, and so on. (See Emacs for a good example.) This turkey is still a project home page with an obvious bias. For instance, who cares about the IRC channel and mailing lists? Or, what proof do you have that a port to a new platform takes one hour? Also, can this thing run the JCK? If it can't, I don't think you have any business claiming that it is "implementing the Java virtual machine specification, second edition".
--Doradus 14:24, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Thanks for the pointers - I'll do my best to improve it. Yes, I am probably biased but willing to learn :) I took a quick look at Java Constraint Kit (if that's what you meant). I haven't tired it. Feel free to help and report problems. Just note that SableVM implements specs. of a JVM not Java Language which are two distinct things. As its class library SableVM uses GNU Classpath which is responsible for most of what you'd call "Java Language". GNU CP is still being developed - so many things don't work. (I don't require you to know about java, and there's no offence here, just explaination). As I said - thanks for the pointers, I'll use them. (I just don't get why you're so quick in deciding to "just delete it" while I am here and willing to improve it instead.)
--gadek Tue Dec 16 04:02:28 UTC 2003
Maybe not like Emacs yet, but I hope you can see progress... Should be acceptable now, I hope.
--gadek Tue Dec 16 13:01:11 UTC 2003

Well yes, actually that's a lot better. I'd change "extremely portable" to "portable" but besides that it's now a pretty good summary of the project. --Doradus 15:40, 17 Dec 2003 (UTC)