Talk:Samurai Pizza Cats

Theme song notes

In the section, it makes a reference to Andy Thomas. However, the linked goes to a wiki for an astronaut..... I don't think that's the same person? Someone want to make sure it's correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sparky-sama (talk • contribs) 15:23, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

I've removed the link to the astronaut, but did not find any link to the Andy Thomas we need. Okkusenman (talk) 02:17, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Saying that themes are 'commonly changed today' is dated information. Of the approximately twenty anime showing in the West, three have different songs - not 'common'. Removing unnecessary side note.

Name Change

"Kyattou Ninden Teyandē (KNT) (キャッ党忍伝てやんでえ)"

Just noticed that the translation was wrong. It's Kyatsu (Kyatsu) rather than (Kyatto) assuming the Japanese you have cited there is correct.

This character: "ッ" is pronounced: "tsu" in Japanese

Edit: My mistake. I did not see the pun part. That's quite odd linking a Katakana word with a Kanji....

fix'd

I will ammend the "Teyandee" part however. As the pronounciation would be "deh" rather than "dee" which is confusing for people with little knowledge of Japanese accent

Seperate KNT from SPC

Do you think Kyattou Ninden Teyandee should have it's own exclusive page since both shows are quite different from each other. Sailor Moon's pages uses the japanese names and refrences and also has a seperate page for the english version. We could probably also move things such as the "Video Game" section over their and tell if the series had any manga, CDS, or other media. - B.J. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.110.71.166 (talk) 19:00, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

I think I shall create one now. Kyattou Ninden Teyandee (anime)

Old comments

Samurai Pizza Cats was also broadcast in Australia as well as the other countries listed.

I've added this. Bloodshedder 18:47, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Info on Guru Lou is missing from the article. I'd add it, but I have no idea what he was called in the Japanese version, nor can I figure out what species he's supposed to be. Also missing is a mention of the Supreme Catatonic. Bloodshedder 18:47, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Guru Lou

The Japanese name of Guru Lou is "Nekomata Reikainosuke" (猫股霊界之介). He's also called "Daisensei"(大先生), that means Great Professor. As you can guess from his name, he's a cat (neko, in Japanese).

Thanks for the info, I appreciate it. Bloodshedder 23:08, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Video game

Looks like there was an NES game called Cattou Ninden Teyandee (at least that's the filename of the ROM image), but I'm up for suggestions as to how to work this into the article. Bloodshedder 06:35, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Don't forget the rather rubbish Java game for mobile phones that was available at least in Italy during the time it was airing there. And the many fan-projects, too! I think you could probably add a Video Game section to the main article... --PkerUNO 23:57, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Cerviche/Ceviche

Isn't Speedy's name a direct reference to Ceviche? The current information states it's a "French version of sashimi" (isn't it actually Peruvian?). The old version of the page had something about it being how "service" is pronounced in Italian (which was totally wrong). --PkerUNO 23:57, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

I find it a little odd that they would connect a character to Peruvian cuisine, but I guess we'll never really know for sure unless someone from the show explained it. Bloodshedder 00:17, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, they probably needed a pun for "Service", and this was the closest foodstuff they could find... I'm sure there's something about this on an FAQ somewhere on the Internet, I just don't know where! --PkerUNO 23:55, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Producer Andy Thomas *did* explain it - as Cerviche, a play on "Ceviche." I'm correcting it.Rebochan 07:16, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Uh, no. You're going to need a cite for that. "Service" prononced in Italian phonics IS "ser-vee-chay". That's not totally wrong, you're totally ignorant. That's also the only way that his name makes sense - as a pun. "Cerviche" as a play on "Ceviche" has no logic to it. It's not funny, it's not relevant - it's completely implausible. What does a marinated raw fish dish have to do with ANYTHING? Why add the "r"? The "Ceviche" explination just doesn't add up in any way. More plausible is that Andy Thomas, as a humorless TV exec, just didn't get the joke (everybody's not familiar with Italian phonics). On the other hand, "Speedy Service" makes perfect, immediately recognizable sense - and it's satisfyingly clever. Pronouncing an English word in a European way to make it superficially sound exotic has cache in American comedy (Tar-shay, anyone?). Pizza's italian, Speedy Service is a common, relevant concept to pizza delivery... This whole thing is a no-brainer. Naturally, I changed it back. Snackmagic 15:58, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

While that is correct, it STILL sounds like a foodstuff, and one that might be found ON pizzas, and I still think the ceviche is the correct explanation. Andy Thomas wrote the English scripts, BTW, I'm pretty sure he came up with it. And when was the last time SPC was ever logical? --PkerUNO 22:55, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

The puns themselves are generally not particularly opaque, even if there are double meanings. "Service" is rather more logical than "Ceviche"; got a reference? Chris Cunningham 09:03, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Wow, after reading PkerUNO's profile and seeing that he's a native Italian speaker - I feel silly for calling him "totally ignorant"; but then I'm still confident about my interpretation of the pun. Maybe a pun based on mangling an English word with Italian phonics doesn't work if Italian's your "madrelingua". I wonder if the French don't think that Tar-zhay (Target) is funny.Snackmagic 16:29, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't necessarily think that your explanation is wrong, I just think it's a bit more obscure than the previous one. And I'm really sure I remember Andy Thomas explaining it somewhere, I just don't remember where! Also, in the Italian dub they just changed his name to Romeo, dropping the whole "service" surname/dilemma/debacle! Actually, I just did a bit of research and this came up: http://www.angelfire.com/ca/savespc/faq.html - looks like whatever the spelling is, "Service" definitely ISN'T correct. --PkerUNO 08:13, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

I've seen that already. It says his name has been spelled in print at least three different ways, including "Service". Besides the fact that it's just some random, angelfire hosted FAQ, even if you take it seriously, all it proves is that the producers have been sloppy about the whole thing (understandably so. SPC obviously wasn't going to be hot IP.). Honestly it just leads me to believe that producer Andy Thomas is clueless and incompetent (or misrepresented by this FAQ), rather than doubt the obvious interpretation of his name. I'm sorry, but this isn't even an argument. "Service" makes immediate sense (as an Italian-speaker, do you dispute that "service" read with Italian phonics sounds EXACTLY like "ser-vee-chay"? No? Then how is this explanation obscure?). Ceviche doesn't (a Peruvian marinated raw fish dish that theoretically can be physically placed atop a pizza, but really never is? Tee...hee?). What's there to disagree about?Snackmagic 13:53, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

It's the official alt.tv.pizzacats FAQ, the one that the vast majority of fans use. And yes, the producers were sloppy, but that site IS one of the most respected sites within the "old" SPC fanbase. Also, to be perfectly honest, if we don't take the producer's word as to what's official or not, then who are we supposed to look to? That's about as official as you can get. The reason why I don't like the italian phonetic argument is that it's too random and too sophisticated for this case. Not to mention that there is no other mention of Italy anywhere near the series (apart from the toy box art), and that "ser-vee-chay" means absolutely nothing in Italian anyway. It would have to be "servizio". Also, Guido is the only character with an Italian name (which could just as easily be Spanish). Fact is, Cerviche does sound like "service", and also sounds like "ceviche", a kind of fish. Cats like fish. Speedy eats lots of them in the series. It seems the simplest explanation. As a final word, I'm not going to continue with this argument, since it seems rather pointless to me to squabble over such a hotly contested name. I'm not going to make any edits to the page regarding Speedy's name, I don't really care. Just remember that it's only the name of a fictional character. :) --PkerUNO 14:46, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Fine, but I get a last word too. The Italian connection comes from Pizza, which explains Guido Anchovy's name completely (Guido is easily considered an Italian name more than it is a Spanish name in the U.S. In fact, the name itself is a slur for Italian-Americans (and not latinos)). It doesn't matter that "service" is meaningless in Italian - that's not what the gag depends on (in fact that's part of the gag). It just matters that it sounds superficially Italian (again, like "tar-zhay", which is actually meaningless in French). And we can use our own common sense in this "debate". The producers are people too, and if they can screw up enough to have his name spelled inconsistently in print, they can screw up the explanation of the name's origin.Snackmagic 15:15, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

English version of volume 1

Hasn't a US release of volume 1 been available since 2003 on amazon. It seems that it is an English language version. Here is the link. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006L1PDY/102-5725618-6272940?v=glance&n=13

I doubt it's official. See here: http://members.iimetro.com.au/~mwhitley/pizzacats.htm "Despite not being screened on TV for almost 10 years, Samurai Pizza Cats remains one of the most sort after shows on video. A lot of fans don't know that it was actually released legitimately on video in both the UK and US for a very short time in the early 1990's. In the US an extremely small independent video company called Video Treasures released "Samurai Pizza Cats the movie", which was just a compilation of the first episode "Stop Dragon My Cat Around!" and the two part finale "The Big Comet Caper". A year later another small company, this time in the UK, released another tape with the episodes "Stop Dragon My Cat Around!", "Underground, Underwater, Undercooked", "Kind of a Drag" and "Double Trouble for Princess Vi". Unfortunately that's all that was ever released legitimately in English on video ever. A bootleg DVD from a company called Jade Entertainment surfaced about 2003, but it's just a bad PAL to NTSC transfer with half of one of the episodes missing. Even though it contains some new episodes not available on the two legitimate releases, it's not really worth anybody's hard earned cash." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 38.100.217.249 (talk) 02:11, 14 January 2007 (UTC).

Mojo Rojo

The page says the series was "produced in 1990 in Japan" and "introduced to western audiences in 1991". The Powerpuff girls page says "created by CalArts student Craig McCracken in 1992" and the original run was "November 18, 1998–March 25, 2005". Then, how can be Mojo Rojo a reference to Mojo Jojo, if Pizza Cats came earlier? Perhaps it's the other way?

I think they're completely unrelated, and this is just a coincidence (if that, even). --Crisu 19:09, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

The Emperess

I noticed there's no mention of Princess Vi's mother (SPC40 Princess Vi's Hippy Dippy Mom) in this article. I don't know the spelling of her name, though, but the pronunciation is something to the effect of "Freeta", anyone know? Wa 02:17, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Nevrmind it's Fredia.. >_>; Think she's an important enough character to be mentioned? She did have a whole episode about her. Another unmentioned semi-important character would be Carla. Wa 02:34, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Pizzicato

Is the actual title of the show, Samurai Pizza Cats, not a pun on the musical term Pizzicato?

I don't see the connection. Something tells me it is actually a reference to pizza... Bloodshedder 22:44, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Cuz, y'know, they run a pizza restaurant? – 24.147.6.139 00:53, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Link for you

I don't know if you use this kinda stuff, but I found the enitre show on Veoh.com here's a link. http://www.veoh.com/videos/v8787923TFDnYnn

• Rachel the Pizza Cat lover* —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.2.88.85 (talk) 22:31, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Japanese reception of English translation

"Even Japanesse fans think the English translation is better. Tatsunoko themselves even said the english translation was "what we should have done in the first place"."

This was added under the Translation section of the article on July 4, 2009. It sounds pretty suspicious to me. As a big fan of the show and someone who has a very basic understanding of Japanese, I often read Japanese webpages and message board postings about the show. Only occasionally does the subject of the translation ever come up, let alone any comparisons of it to the original. And I've certainly never seen anything official from Tatsunoko on the matter. Felineki (talk) 04:19, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Dubious material which isn't sourced can, and should, be removed on sight. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 09:35, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Video/DVD release

I changed "complete DVD release" to "video" because there is no information about a Japanese DVD set and the Japanese wikipedia also states there is none. And is there really a French video/DVD release? The link is dead and I couldn't find anything about it, but maybe that's because of my poor French. Eginhard (talk) 22:13, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

The Japanese video release is actually incomplete, it only goes through episode 20 (source: http://www.pluto.dti.ne.jp/~zumi-fox/teyande/dic/dic-h.htm#video). You are correct in there being no Japanese DVD release. (Petition for DVD release: http://www.tanomi.com/metoo/naiyou.html?kid=8829) The French DVD release consists of two boxsets released by Manga Distribution, each consisting of 26 episodes across 5 DVDs: http://www.manga-distribution.fr/md/index.php?script=fiche_serie&id_serie=630 Felineki (talk) 02:33, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

The DVD section says the ones found on shopping sites like Amazon are believed to be bootlegs. No source has been given. This claim needs a source. 27, May 2010

Added the Licensor section and a question

I just added the Licensor section in the page itself so it could be more legit just like the other Anime Based discussions in Wikipedia. But I got one question, does Saban lost the license of the series in 2001 or 2002 after they sold their libraries to Disney? If so, why? Blackgaia02 (talk) 19:53, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Major Contradiction in article regarding Japanese airdates

Can more knowledgeable editors try to reconcile the airdates? The program template list a one year rage from February 1990 to 1991 while the List of Samurai Pizza Cats episodes list a three month range of September to November 1990. Which is the correct range?--Kencaesi (talk) 17:45, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

February 1990 to 1991 are the original Japanese airdates and can be verified from an official source.[1] I'm not sure where the allege "Saban" airdates are coming from. TV.com is being referenced on the episode, but TV.com isn't a reliable source, especially since the Saban episodes were not broadcast until after the original Japanese broadcast. —Farix (t | c) 22:47, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Template:Cleanup-translation

I added Template:Cleanup-translation because of the following reason: The "Japanese version" section looks like the result of google auto-translate of the "スタッフ" section of Japanese Wikipedia article. [Still, some edits were possibly made] For example 川井 憲次 was auto-translated as "Kawai Kenzi". However the correct translation is "Kawai Kenji" (See Kenji Kawai). I have changed this part.

Some Kanji characters left untranslated. Ans some of the translation spund unnatural. For example what is "Toukyou processing station" suppose to mean?
Teyandee (talk) 17:31, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

=American adaptation?

That people in the US changed the scripts is not enough to warrant that misnomer, it is not like Power Rangers where original visual content was added, it is a Japanese production and so must be said, FROM THE START.201.240.147.131 (talk) 00:30, 28 May 2018 (UTC)