Talk:Shrapnel Valley Cemetery

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Does not comply. It says 1,500 characters of main body text. At Template talk:Did you know, this is elaborated as follows: "contain more than 1,500 characters (around 1.5 kilobytes) in main body text (ignoring infoboxes, categories, references, lists, and tables)". Counted that way, I get 1,168 characters. Art LaPella 00:56, 8 October 2007 (UTC) Thank you. I've added material which happens to make it comply now! Chergles 16:42, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

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Does not comply. It's longer than any hook you'll see accepted on the Main Page. At Template talk:Did you know, note my 316 character hook. link which elaborates on this routine problem. Art LaPella 00:56, 8 October 2007 (UTC) Thank you for your advice. Revising to comply. Chergles 16:42, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

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Complies: It hasn't changed for 90 years, won't change for another 90 years.

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Chergles 23:19, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Please make the article longer and the hook shorter. If the shortened hook still includes Gallipoli, the battle and the film, you or I should wikilink them. I added a link to Template talk:Did you know#Suggestions to Wikipedia:Did you know, since you went to so much work to document our rules but missed some of our most regularly enforced ones. I also corrected details including the spelling of cemetery. "Did You Know" nitpicker Art LaPella 00:56, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you.

Resolved

 – Art LaPella 20:26, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

John Simpson Kirkpatrick's grave

Which "legend" is buried here? John Simpson Kirkpatrick and Beach Commonwealth War Graves Commission Cemetery says he is buried there. -- !! ?? 23:20, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

John Simpson Kirkpatrick is indeed buried at Beach Cemetery, Plot 1, Row F, Grave 1.[1][2] The first reference, the Australian Government ANZAC website, quotes a letter saying he was killed in Shrapnel Gully. However the second one, the CWGC website, contradicts this by saying that he was killed near Steele's Post, which was on the front line at the top of Monash Valley. The main route from the beach area to the front line was through Shrapnel Gully and then through Monash Valley. -- Jll 21:28, 19 October 2007 (UTC)