Talk:Slaves of Sleep

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Slaves of Sleep is a fantasy novel by author L. Ron Hubbard. It was first published in book form in 1948 by Shasta Publishers in an edition of 3,500 copies, of which 250 were signed by Hubbard. The novel originally appeared in the July 1939 issue of the magazine Unknown.


Placing here on talk page, unclear what this is sourced to. Will modify it with some in-line citations to other sources. -- Cirt (talk) 22:27, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. This is all now fixed, per below. ;) -- Cirt (talk) 19:04, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

General References and Recent Changes[edit]

  • In response to Cirt's note on my talk page and the general references: The copy count and number of signed copies (above) is from the Chalker and Owings reference which also gives the original publication in Unknown, though not the specific issue. The 333 reference is there to support notability, and mainly for the plot introduction. The Tuck reference does give the issue of Unknown and is used for the entire publication history through 1967. It also give the basic bibliographic details. Since Cirt is moving content around, I'll let him/her incorporate the inline citations as he/she sees fit. However, I definitely don't think they should be "Further Reading". They are general references. Moving them inline will render that distinction moot.
  • I don't agree with the change in genre of this novel from fantasy to science fiction. Without having read the book myself, the plot introduction (paraphrased from 333) describes what is generally considered a fantasy story. Further (and lest I be accused of OR), Clute & Nicholls describes it as a fantasy in Hubbard's entry in The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction (oddly, Clute & Grant barely mention it in their Fantasy Encyclopedia). Neil Barron includes it in his Fantasy and Horror guide, but not in his Anatomy of Wonder (5th edition) which details SF. Additionally, Everett Bleiler in the 1978 edition of The Checklist of Science-Fiction & Supernatural Fiction gives it three subject codes which translate to "Fantasy", "Arabian Nights motifs" and "Fourth dimension, parallel worlds". I think describing it as SF is somewhat misleading.

I'm certainly happy to see someone take an interest in the article. --Rtrace (talk) 00:42, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

These issues are best addressed by making it more specific as to which sources back up which facts from which sentences. For example, the science fiction genre is backed up to a specific cite. -- Cirt (talk) 06:46, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for the clarifications. All sources now moved back to main article text and incorporated directly as in-line cited references.  Done. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 18:41, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]