Talk:Socorro, New Mexico
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Please do not remove the footnotes
I noticed that some unnamed person made a minor change to the article adding information about Jodi Foster and the movie "Contact." Unfortunately, that editor also removed the "footnotes" section to the article. I hate to complain, but I carefully researched the "history" portion of the article and made sure to include citations. Please don't remove the footnotes!Abqbobcat 22:15, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Need to add more Socorro history
An anonymous source added information about Dallas Stoudenmire. They included it with the story about the founding of Socorro. Since Stoudenmire was apparently a Socorro marshal in the 1870s and 1880s, I put the information in a subcategory "The 1880s." I decided to leave the information about Stoudenmire in the article even though I had never heard of him. The information also needs citations, however that can be done later.
More history needs to be added to the article. Obviously, much more happened between the founding of Socorro and Stoudenmire, and much more happened after Stoudenmire. Unfortunately, I do not have the time to research this myself; therefore, someone else will have to fill in the gaps for now. Abqbobcat
Claiming that New Mexico Tech students created the "materials" from the "crash" shows just how little is understood of the Socorro Incident; namely that there was no crash at all, the object took off again after Zamora approached, by use of an extremely powerful ("roaring") liftoff mechanism that resembled a rocket to all appearances; the "materials" in question were in fact both scorch marks on the ground, produced from an extremely high heat source, which was in turn analyzed by police, military, and eventually scientific personnel (including noted ufologist and scientist J. Allen Hynek), and indentations resembling the depth of footprints, formed in the shapes of perfect circles, and three more triangular indentations, deeper than the footprints, where Zamora had reported the unexplained craft to have placed landing appendages that later retracted into the craft upon takeoff. No evidence has ever emmerged explaining the encounter (including what any "extraterrestrials" would be doing in such a seemingly pointless location to begin with), especially not some "prank by NMT students," to the point that within a secret memo for the CIA, Blue Book's director, Major Quintanilla expressed his own bafflement in the case. In other words, your entire section on the 1964 Socorro UFO Incident, which is one of only two reports from the Socorro, New Mexico area that I've ever heard of, is extremely flawed. --Chr.K. 06:23, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
I would like to add my support to the above poster. I have read numerous UFO books which deal with Socorro incident, including books by UFO skeptics/debunkers such as Phil Klass and Donald Menzel, and nowhere have I read such a detailed explanation for the Socorro UFO incident. Menzel did argue that some local teenagers had played a "UFO prank" on Lonnie Zamora, but this claim was dismissed by the Air Force, and Menzel never provided any specific evidence for his claim. Given the author's specific details and their claim that the case was "solved" - even though the Air Force never listed it as such - the author should be required to at least provide a link to his/her source. Given that the author does not provide a reference for their source of this claim, the claim should be removed unless a link is added. --User:Populism 12 January 2007
I have noticed that the Zamora section of this article has been changed to correspond with the wishes of the above posters. It does appear to be far superior to the previous version.
Edits by User:Bigape
I reverted these edits twice, for the following reasons. (1) The organization in question makes no claim to notability. (2) This is self-promotion by the organization. (3) The link contravenes Wikipedia's external links policy. (4) This church is not even in Socorro. -- Spireguy 14:17, 12 April 2007 (UTC)