Talk:South African rand/Archives/2012

units

the history of the rand switches from USD to sterling mid paragraph. Either stick to USD or find a more neutral metric to compare against. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.32.46.111 (talk) 04:07, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

In this case it may make some sense, as the Rand was originally defined in relation to South Africa's previous currency the South African Pound (itself equal to the British Pound), being launched at R2 = £1, or 10 shillings = R1 in 1961. Booshank (talk) 21:37, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Does anyone have access to infomation about the commercial and financial Rand? Something I dimly remember being mentioned in my childhood —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.164.211.86 (talk) 05:32, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

See Financial rand. -- œ^™ 01:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

154.5.45.30: Where did you find the reference to "Afrikaans: range"? This is the first I've heard of it...? (Dewet 09:08, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC))

Not sure where the person who put it in got it from, because it wasn't correct. If taken literally, "rand" means "ridge" as it comes from the name 'Witwatersrand' or "Ridge of White Waters". Presumably the name was chosen due to the fact that most gold mines at the time were on the Witwatersrand, and at the time gold mining underpinned the South African economy. In any case, any translations of the word are ignored, it's seen as being a word on its own without alternate meaning. So I removed the addition.Impi 15:48, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)

How many rands equal to a u.s dollar?

Go to a currency exchange website for the exact figure. xe.com is the one I use. --Taejo 07:18, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

The "new R10" note in the picture is from the series BEFORE the current one. (Although I'm not sure that series HAS a R10 note). The new R20 and up have the EURion--Taejo 07:18, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

Hmm, you're right. That's not the current R10 note - I'll try find a pic to put up. Joziboy 24 Feb 2006, 12:18 UTC

7 Coins! The rand is NOT available as 9 coins but 7, 1 and 2c coins have been discontinued since 2002, and are no longer in circulation. All prices in the republic are rounded to the nearest 5c. Please stop changing it back to 9! It's misleading information. 198.54.202.234 19:56, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

are we sure about this?

"The plural of rand is rand, not rands." I live in South Africa and often say 'i need five rands' and hear many other people saying it as well. What's the source for this? --Aliwalla 10:00, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Some people might commonly say "Rands", but it's not correct. The SA Reserve Bank, for example, denotes our currency as "Rand (R) and Cents (c)". Similarly, the South African Reserve Bank Act 90 of 1989 uses "rand" when referring to any amount greater than one (ie, fifty rand).

I'd also caution against using personal experience as evidence, since I also live in South Africa and I've never said "rands", nor have any of my friends. It's definitely not a universal thing. — Impi 15:29, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Since there are many official langauges, we must be clear whether or not plural rand as "rand" is universal of all the official/national languages, or just a subset. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 23:52, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

What languages to include in the infobox?

Please discuss at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Numismatics#Peseta. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 04:06, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

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Languages?

Are the languages of the coins and bills completely random or what? Is it decided each language would get a certain quota? 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * (talk) 20:47, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

South African Reserve Bank is in English is on the front (animal side) of every note, with two of the other official languages on the other side of the note, so that all 11 official languages are represented (English on all, tow others on each.) Tarcus (talk) 07:20, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I know, I just wondered about the criterions considered for these languages when minting coins. Quota-based, alternating languages by year, etc? There's probably some reason behind, and I wondered which it would be. 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * (talk) 20:31, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

There is a page about the languages on the mint's website - www.samint.co.za Roger (talk) 18:03, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Plural

Is the plural "rand" or "rands?" I downloaded the text of the 1961 Constitution Act of South Africa from a South African government website, and "rand" was referenced in plural form as "rand" (i.e., "the State President's salary is 25,000 rand"). Or are both forms correct? Josh (talk) 02:30, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

The plural for the currency is Rand, not Rands. There is an Act of Parliament that states it, but I can't find it offhand. Here are some other quick refs found with google search [1] [2]. The only time rands can be used if in reference to the physical coin rather than the currency, i.e. Q) Do you have change for 2 Rand? ... A) Yes, I have two rands would mean that I have two one Rand coins --NJR ZA (talk) 05:29, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Article name

Why is this article not called "South African Rand" - as far as I am aware, the Rand is a proper noun. Socrates2008 (Talk) 05:46, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

The name of a currency is not usualy capitalised in english usage. These examples all look normal to me: "That is a fifty dollar shirt", "Joe gave me a hundred pounds", "It cost a thousand euros to fix". I can't think of any reason for the rand to be different. Roger (talk) 11:38, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Is that usage not different to "The Pound has strengthened against the Euro"? Socrates2008 (Talk) 11:43, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Image comment

The comment with the old South African notes and coins is wrong. Comment is: "Older notes and coins, mostly out of circulation now." However these are no longer legal tender so can not be in circulation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tanka8 (talk • contribs) 15:14, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Done. You could have just done it yourself. Roger (talk) 15:26, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

1 and 2c

Has the legal tender status of 1 and 2c coins been withdrawn? If so, shouldn't they be not mentioned on the info bar. I think to sey they are uncommon implies that they are still minted etc., just not common (like the US$2 note) otherwise I think they should be removed. Tarcus 07:31, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

If you could find some reference, I'm all for it. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 14:02, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Now that I've checked the Reserve Bank Website, it says they have only stopped minting them (as of 2002) and they are still legal tender. Sice it apppeaers that no steps are actually being taken to withdraw them from circulation and melt them down, maybe they should even not be considered rare? Tarcus 06:17, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

According to the branch manager my bank they return all 1 and 2 cent coins to the mint for recycling as they are deposited by clients. They no longer issue 1&2c coins as part of cash withdrawls. So they are being taken out of circulation as part of "normal" operations rather that in a specific systematic process. Roger (talk) 11:57, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

5 cent coin will also stop minting today. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.126.123.106 (talk) 16:10, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

If that was true it would have been all over the news but it isn't. Roger (talk) 18:00, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't remember the last time I saw a 1c or 2c coin -- they're probably not rare in the terms of a collector, but they're certainly rare in actual circulation. --196.215.6.78 (talk) 08:55, 13 June 2012 (UTC)