Talk:Stellar Daisy
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The Korean Flag
[edit]Is it just me or is it that the Korean flag shown is not the current flag but instead one of the older versions? boldblazer (talk) 07:14, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
Italic title
[edit]For some reason, the article title refuses to italicize despite the ship infobox supposedly having a built-in functionality for that. Using {{DISPLAYTITLE}} or {{italic title}} works but adds an error message to the bottom of the page. Anyone know a solution to this? Tupsumato (talk) 21:25, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah, I noticed the same problem. Is it because the "name" parameter is quite a lot of markup, including italic text? How do other infobox-ship articles handle cases like this, where a ship has had many names in its lifespan (which I imagine is a common circumstance)? -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 22:05, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
- Apparently if there's a prefix, the algorithm detects it better (e.g. here). Tupsumato (talk) 03:13, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- Is that better? - tweaked infobox template to match Kathryn Spirit. Davidships (talk) 21:14, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- Now it works. Thank you. Tupsumato (talk) 03:33, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
- ...and broken again. Tupsumato (talk) 16:30, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- Now it works. Thank you. Tupsumato (talk) 03:33, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
- Is that better? - tweaked infobox template to match Kathryn Spirit. Davidships (talk) 21:14, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- Apparently if there's a prefix, the algorithm detects it better (e.g. here). Tupsumato (talk) 03:13, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
Infobox
[edit]Looked at mark-up, but cannot see why the Liberian flag isn't showing alongside the other three (at least on my screen). Davidships (talk) 11:50, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- I can see it just fine. Tupsumato (talk) 13:20, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- This is what I see: http://s660.photobucket.com/user/davidships/media/Stellar%20Daisy.jpg.html That's on Firefox, on MS Edge I get similar but with a plain little blank rectangle. Davidships (talk) 20:56, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
- Strange. Tupsumato (talk) 03:33, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
- This is what I see: http://s660.photobucket.com/user/davidships/media/Stellar%20Daisy.jpg.html That's on Firefox, on MS Edge I get similar but with a plain little blank rectangle. Davidships (talk) 20:56, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
Survivors' accounts
[edit]Interesting reading. Mjroots (talk) 15:06, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
Largest bulk carrier ever lost at sea
[edit]Previously, there was a claim that Stellar Daisy was the largest ever ship lost at sea. While this is not true (Atlantic Empress was longer and had greater tonnage), it might be the largest bulk carrier that has sank, so I'll try to look for references to support this claim and collect them here. Please help if you can. Tupsumato (talk) 12:16, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
The IHS Sea-Web lists the following large bulk carriers as total loss:
- Weser Ore
- oil/ore carrier
- IMO number: 7328932
- 278,734 DWT
- 335.030 m (1,099 ft)
- Did not sink ([1])
- Castor
- oil/ore carrier
- IMO number: 7222592
- 268,728 DWT
- 335.670 m (1,101 ft)
- Did not sink ([2])
- Was carrying oil cargo during casualty
- Stellar Daisy
- ore carrier
- IMO number: 9038725
- 226,141 DWT
- 321.950 m (1,056 ft)
- Berge Vanga
- oil/ore carrier
- IMO number: 7367536
- 231,568 DWT
- 314 m (1,030 ft)
- Berge Istra
- oil/ore carrier
- IMO number: 7123540
- 227,556 DWT
- 314 m (1,030 ft)
Based on the above, it appears that Stellar Daisy is the largest ship other than a tanker that has ever sank. Tupsumato (talk) 12:46, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
- This approach to fact finding breaks the Wikipedia:No original research rule. We should not include a claim of this sort without citing a reliable source to support it. Verbcatcher (talk) 18:32, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
- Agreed. Unless a reliable outside source states this, it shouldn't be included in the article. However, any claims for largest ship of any type ever to sink can be easily refuted with the Atlantic Empress disaster. Tupsumato (talk) 20:53, 11 May 2017 (UTC)