Talk:Tahar Chérif El-Ouazzani

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A page move may or may not be in order here. But User:TonyStarks moved it to a spelling different from the previous source which was the spelling in the title, and also different from the name in a source he did cite, which spells it in French as Chérif El Ouazzani, which as you can see remains a redlink.

Go study Wikipedia's naming conventions; use common name, use English, etc. Then discuss any proposed changes here. Gene Nygaard (talk) 02:14, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore, TonyStarks put in a sort key which differed not only from the spelling before his move, but from the spelling after his move too. Gene Nygaard (talk) 02:16, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cherif El Ouazzani is his last name. His first name is Tahar. In Algeria, he's known as Tahar Cherif El Ouazzani, to differentiate him from his younger brother Abdennour Cherif El Ouazzani. TonyStarks (talk) 13:13, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So provide some references for all of that—otherwise it is just your original research, unacceptable as a basis for making choices here—explaining why it is different in the sources. But what is he known as in English? The only evidence we have is the external link to his profile at national-football-teams.com so that should be addressed. Gene Nygaard (talk) 13:25, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I tried some Google searches, not good evidence of anything other than existence of the usage, and wasn't able to draw any conclusions because both of them result in many hits for people other than this one. Some attempt to remove the taint spread about by Wikipedia, but it isn't totally effective. Just "AND" searches, not exact phrase.

Cherif Ouazzani -Wikipedia [3,350 hits]
Cherif Ouazani -Wikipedia [5,340 hits]
Tahar Cherif Ouazzani -Wikipedia [766 hits]
Tahar Cherif Ouazani -Wikipedia [230 hits]

In any case, it looks like you should be making a number of redirects (for variants such as El-Ouzani, Chérif, etc.)--redirects are cheap. Gene Nygaard (talk) 13:36, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I also note that the same dzfoot.com site which has a profile for his brother with the Abdennour Cherif El Ouazzani spelling cited in the external links on his page, also spells the subject of this article differently, as "Tahar Cherif El-Ouazani" with one z rather than two plus a hyphen, at this page. Gene Nygaard (talk) 13:44, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

His official name is "Si Tahar Chérif El Ouazzani". His first name is "Si Tahar" and his last name is "Chérif El Ouazzani." He is commonly referred to as "Tahar Chérif El Ouazzani" with the "Si" dropped in his first name. Thats all I have to say on the topic, do what you wish with it. TonyStarks (talk) 18:34, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Guess it doesn't matter much. If he were notable (or even though he was good), he probably would have kept the "Si" and thrown everything else out. Gene Nygaard (talk) 13:33, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]