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- Now, with that settled, I think this article should moved to Tamarod, Tamarud or Tamarrud (any of those spellings would work), it's real and more commonly name. Charles Essie (talk) 18:46, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Petition numbers, real?
Can anyone provide a reliable, independent source for the claim that Rebel gathered more than 20 million signatures? I don't doubt that many people would have signed, but the figure is simply unbelievable, no to say outright impossible. It means more than 40.000 signatures per hour. Such an endevour requires a vast and perfectly run organization, which conflicts with the description of Rebel given in the article (founded just a couple of months ago, unpaid volunteers, not many...). Have anyone contrasted this with, I don't know, some independent verification of some sort. After all, if this was going to be used politically, there must have been some mechanism for validation. I don't care about the politics of the thing, my interest is "maths in news"...
Real weird. Some 25 million voted in the presidential election last year. What Rebel wants us to believe is that people is keener to participate in a petition than in the actual election of the president. It simply doesn't add up. And then, if the 25 million who are minimally active in politics 21 million signed, who voted for Mursi?
- This isn't the place to discuss that. Most reliable sources mention that the movement claimed to have 22 million signatures. Some reliable sources also mention that this has not been independently confirmed, but it doesn't seem to garner much focus in the media. A Wikipedia entry is merely a summary of what reliable sources say, not our (editors) own research. MezzoMezzo (talk) 09:43, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- To help 2 pieces of info : http://news.yahoo.com/signature-campaign-egypts-streets-tests-morsi-064216176.html and Naguib Sawiris = http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/special-report-how-muslim-brotherhood-lost-egypt By 30 June, the organizers claimed to have 22 million signatures with addresses and national identity numbers. There was no independent verification, but the movement had clearly hit a national nerve. Mahmoud Badr, 28, the young journalist who co-founded the group, told Reuters that Tamarod had succeeded where others failed by dint of shoe-leather campaigning and savvy use of social media. Brotherhood officials are convinced that Tamarod was bankrolled and abetted by Gulf money, exiled Egyptian oligarchs and the army. The reality appears to have been more spontaneous and less conspiratorial, though some unfamiliar faces with suspected links to the security services began to appear at Tamarod campaign offices in the final days. Billionaire businessman Naguib Sawiris, who left Egypt shortly after Morsy's election, told Reuters he threw his full support behind the youth movement. The Free Egyptians party, the party that I founded, used all its branches across Egypt to (gather) signatures for Tamarod," Sawiris said in a telephone interview from his yacht off the Greek island of Mykonos. "Also the TV station that I own and the newspaper, Al-Masry Al-Youm, were supporting the Tamarod movement with their media ... It is fair to say that I encouraged all the affiliations I have to support the movement. But there was no financing, because there was no need."--Mf payrault (talk) 20:28, 22 August 2013 (UTC) (France)
Changing Events and the Article
Basically, the article references events promised in the future that have already passed. The military stepped and basically fulfilled the movement's demands, but the article does not reflect this. I changed the tense in some places and marked this as a current event, and also noted that the military thing had happened, but I don't want to go to far into updating the content because I am not all that familiar with what is going on. I think though, that what is ongoing should generally be somewhat reflected, maybe. anamedperson (talk) 19:20, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
CHARITY / N.G.O right ?
Sponsored by State Department .....
Section on activity after breakup of MB protests
Since the Muslim Brotherhood protests were broken up by the Egyptian government, I have noticed a number of mainstream news sources mention that Tamarod members and their citizen committees have been accused of harassing foreigners, men with beards and women with headscarves in addition to acts of violence against Morsi supporters. The volume of articles mentioning that is surprising, and it really ought to be included, in addition to any sort of response the movement might have to such accusations. MezzoMezzo (talk) 09:45, 18 August 2013 (UTC)