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Why is this structure a "member"? Is this supposed to mean that Tatline's member was a tower? Dahn 06:08, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, of course the tower wasn't a member of the Comintern, but it was suppose to symbolize the Comintern, that's why I guess I added the member of comintern category... I don't know. Feel free to remove it if you think it's wierd. Bronks 26 January 2006

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Tatlin's Tower is a perfect symbol of communism. It's ugly, ill-conceived, its heart is empty and it doesn't work.

I agree, Tatlin's Tower is a perfect symbol of communism: a vision of overcoming the everyday world (especially in Russia) of poverty, backwardness, and cruelty. But only a dream. Peshkov 23:55, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"The point of this never completed imaginary work of genius is that it is the finest artistic expression of the dialectic, the idea that things turn into their opposite, the past meets the future, time is cyclical not linear...the symbolism of Tatlin's tower goes far beyond the single historic episode of the revolution, but is also forever identified with the most red hot revolutionary moment of working class struggle." ~ Camilla Power. --Dalinian (talk) 15:40, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was no move. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 00:25, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

Tatlin's Tower → Monument to the Third International … Rationale: Tatlin's Tower is a nickname, the Monument to the Third International was the official name used at the time. Warofdreams talk 18:11, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak oppose, per WP:NAME. Although I support using the proper name of any work of art, Google hits for Tatlin's Tower outnumber the suggested location almost 10 to 1. On Wikipedia, "Arrangement in Grey and Black: The Artist's Mother" is located at Whistler's Mother, as it is the most common name. Particularly since this tower was never actually constructed, I side with the public nickname. Kafziel 19:00, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Searches on Google Books are often preferred, as these show usage by experts. Here, the official name outweighs the nickname about six to one. Warofdreams talk 00:14, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Bronks 19:08, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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I'd also oppose the renaming

The Eiffel Tower was officially called the "300 meter tower", but that was a stupid name, because there were many of those at the time, so everybody (including wikipedia) started calling it by its architect. The Colosseum was officially called the "Flavian Amphitheatre", but the people started calling it the colosseum as a reference to a colossal statue that ued to be next to the building. The official name should of course still be bold in the articles opening sentence. GMRE (talk) 18:34, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Model in Hanoi

There is one additional model, not mentioned in the article, at the Ho Chi Minh Museum in Hanoi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.147.244.77 (talk) 11:44, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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