Talk:Tattooing in China

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After reading your article, I have a deeper understanding of Chinese tattoos, and we can have a chance to discuss it together. The fly in the ointment is that the Baidu Baike in the reference is a low-credit online Wikipedia, so I hope you can know related content in other sites SUNDAIYANG (talk) 10:29, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What? — LlywelynII 06:12, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was: rejected by Narutolovehinata5 (talk) 01:24, 1 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Article would have needed considerable work to be suitable for DYK.

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... that the history of Chinese tattoos? Source: Tattooing in China
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tattooing in China
- Comment: A slight copyedit work will be appreciated.

Created by FaNCc (talk) and LUBINFNAN (talk). Nominated by FaNCc (talk) at 08:26, 8 December 2022 (UTC).[reply]

While article is long enough and new enough, and well-referenced, the prose and language of the article is, to be honest, not currently legible. You will need a lot more than a slight copyediting to make this article eligible for the main page, being honest. It almost reads like machine translation from the sources. Juxlos (talk) 10:52, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @Juxlos:We have made changes to the article translation. FaNCc (talk) 15:45, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It is still not up to main page standards in both style, formatting, sentencing, and language, and I don't even know where to begin copyediting it. Still a No from me. Juxlos (talk) 06:47, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Removed

Removed this section as ridiculously irrelevant and off topic, although it might be helpful in other articles with better sourcing:

Although tattoos were historically associated with negative punishment in China, in other historic world cultures, tattoos were symbols of social class and status. In [[ancient Egypt]], tattoos were used to draw social status. During [[Victorian England]], it was popular for women to wear red lipstick, similar to modern tattooed lips, eyebrows, and other [[permanent cosmetics]].<ref name=":6">{{Cite web |date=2017-05-25 |script-title=zh:纹身精神的体现，让我们知道意义所在！ |trans-title=The spirit of the tattoo is embodied, so we know the meaning! |url=https://www.sohu.com/a/143427016_827987 |website=[[Sohu]]}}</ref>{{bsn|date=August 2023}}

— LlywelynII 06:12, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

“Qingling, often known as ‘branding of the face’”

I found this because it was tagged as needing characters and am so far unable to find them. This sentence is not cited. There are "Qingling" words but they aren't related. After multiple sessions of online research I was unable to find any specific word that could match with the full description. After looking at all 90 Wiktionary entires for līng líng lǐng and lìng I could not find any that mean "face", "tattoo", or "brand" (although many don't have definitions so this is not hard evidence).

However, I did find two characters that may be quite close. 黥 qíng, a face tattoo meant as capital punishment, and 领 lǐng, neck. Given that a neck tattoo is often considered a face tattoo this is not a stretch, however 黥领 does not appear to be a word. It's possible that if the person who wrote this sentence was working off a source and neglected to cite it, and that original source may have mistaken a verb+noun combo for a single word.

Because this sentence is not cited, if nobody can find either a source, or a Chinese word that matches "Qingling" (from which sources can be found), I will rewrite this sentence with content from other sources (which is probably worthwhile anyways). If anyone is aware of this word or knows sources that use it, please let me know. SmallTestAcount (talk) 16:18, 16 October 2023 (UTC) SmallTestAcount (talk) 16:18, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]