Talk:The Hate That Hate Produced

A fact from The Hate That Hate Produced appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 14 May 2009 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that The Hate That Hate Produced, a documentary critical of the Nation of Islam, caused the group's membership to double?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2009/May.

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On what is "generally believed"

Malik Shabazz, your page says to let you know if it's thought your editing is biased, and I think it clearly is here. I don't think it's "generally" viewed that The Hate That Hate Produced was biased, and more importantly, your sources don't demonstrate that. They just demonstrate that those particular writers feel that way. I can prove anything that way; find two people who say something and voila, it's a general belief. It doesn't work that way, and your asking me to prove a negative is disingenuous. I'm going to put it back until you provide evidence that it is a widely-held belief.—Chowbok ☠ 00:33, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you know what you're talking about. Every source indicates only what its author believes. But when eight sources are cited that say the same thing, and no sources can be found that argue otherwise, one can conclude that it is general opinion. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 01:19, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that one can conclude any such thing. If all you consult are sources sympathetic to a particular point of view, then it's easy to be fooled into thinking that everyone holds such views. Please also see WP:SYNTH.—Chowbok ☠ 02:50, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you say so. I wouldn't know anything about that, because I've never engaged in that sort of editorial behavior. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 03:24, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The implication of Shabazz's edit implies that objectively all commentators feel it is biased against NOI, something which is clearly untrue. To convey the idea that some commentators feel it is biased, I support language that incorporates something along the lines of "some commentators believe" for example; this shows there is a level of support for the bias against NOI claim among commentators without claiming that objectively all commentators agree with the idea. Greenleader(2) (talk) 08:17, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]