Talk:The Hazards of Helen
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Longest?
[edit]No offense, but James Bond (the "official" films) surpassed 24 hours with For Your Eyes Only, released in 1981. Perhaps it should be clarified what category of series this is the longest of. --Dhartung | Talk 23:45, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
- Before: At 23.8 hours, it is believed to be the longest motion picture series ever filmed.
- After: At 23.8 hours, it is believed to be the longest non-feature length motion picture series ever filmed. -- User:zanimum
Anybody know the cumulative runtime for the Our Gang series? It surpasses Helen in number of episodes, and some of those were two reels while Helen seems to have been (mostly?) one reel episodes. Cdixon 18:12, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
- Our Gang's cumulative runtime is easily double that of this series (and that's disincluding the feature General Spanky). My rough estimate - (145 two reelers x avg. 17 min runtime) + (75 one-reelers x avg. 9 min runtime) places Our Gang at about 52.3 hours. --FuriousFreddy 05:02, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
No offense taken, Freddy! However, I don't have a problem with The Hazards of Helen being identified as a serial. The fact that it had no "cliff hanger" was the only thing about The Hazards of Helen that differed from the genre of the silent Adventure serial; it coalesced with the expected milieu in every other way. However, I do agree some modification of the way that is presented wouldn't hurt; it should properly be identified as the "the longest of the silent film adventure serial format" rather than just "the longest of the film serial format." This would distinguish it from long running comedy film series like The Little Rascals or modern adventure film series like the Bond franchise. --Pinikadia (talk) 17:39, 9 January 2010 (UTC)Pinikadia
23.8 hours
[edit]This seems to my (inexpert) eyes rather an ugly way of writing the length; wouldn't "23 hours 48 minutes" (or whatever the exact total is) be better? Loganberry (Talk) 00:56, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
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Contradictions in Article
[edit]After 26 episodes, Holmes and director J.P. McGowan left to set up their own film production company. While working on the serial, the two had begun a relationship that led to marriage. Director James Davis took over and Elsie McLeod substituted in episodes 27-49 until a permanent "Helen" could be found.
imdb and most other sources unambiguously credit Helen Homes and McGowan in the first 48 episodes of the serial. That occasional substitutions for Helen may have cropped up along the way is likely in some cases, but Holmes is definitely present in Episode #47, of which a fragment exists.
"Hazard of Helen" was credited by the Las Vegas Age as the first great motion picture thrill to come to Las Vegas. In 1910 Jack McGowan spent a month or more filming chapters on the corner of Fremont Street and Second. An old mill was erected and then saturated by kerosene then set a blaze by the villan.
No reference is provided for the Las Vegas Age citation, and if the series didn't begin until 1914 how did McGowan shoot footage for it in 1910?
--Pinikadia (talk) 17:06, 9 January 2010 (UTC)Pinikadia
- As no one's fixed this in nearly a decade, I'm going to follow WP:BOLD and remove the 1910 reference. 136.159.160.122 (talk) 19:39, 19 August 2019 (UTC)