Talk:The Kelly Family (serial killers)

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Trustworthiness of the sources?[edit]

The newspapers listed in the Reference section give totally different accounts of how the Kelly family was caught to the point where there is almost no overlap between the reported events, cf. e.g. https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030272/1888-01-03/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1887&sort=date&rows=20&words=family+Kelly&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=8&state=&date2=1888&proxtext=Kelly+Family&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=6 and https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn91068347/1888-01-12/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=1887&sort=date&rows=20&words=family+Kelly&searchType=basic&sequence=0&index=9&state=&date2=1888&proxtext=Kelly+Family&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=8.

The current depiction of the chase follows closely the January 3rd report in The Sun but upon critical inspection, the article raises the impression of having been written at least to some degree to maximize entertainment value as it resembles the style of a typical action-adventure story. This, however, cannot be proven either, but the suspicion remains that some liberties were taken by the article's author. More important, however, is the undeniable discrepancy between the version reported in The Sun and that of other newspapers.

How to proceed? 134.96.204.10 (talk) 10:57, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Commonly recognizable name[edit]

After reading the 8 cited sources while verifying this article I notice that none capitalise the word "Family" and only one capitalises the definite article "The", and that is only because it uses the word at the beginning of sentence. At least ome source omits the definite article entirely, and simply calls this group of people "Kelly family" in the running text of their reports. Wikipedia should do the same with the title in order to follow its own naming conventions. not only using a commonly recognizable name from sources, but also using lower case for common word that are not capitalised in sources, and not including the definite article in a title if it is not part of a proper name. The lack of capitalisation and even omission of the definite article, on occasions, means that the definite article is not part of the name. See WP:LOWERCASE and WP:DEFINITE (and more generally WP:TITLE, too). - Cameron Dewe (talk) 23:26, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]