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Grammar?

"their clubs had such names like die Harlem club, die OK Gang club, and die Cotton club."

"Die"? In German, the word Club (also Klub) is invariably masculine - der Club.Panu Petteri Höglund (talk) 10:24, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Removed "Actually Supporters of Hitler?" section as it cited no refences and was not written NPOV. Ilurker 10:06, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Verification for Swing Heil

christmas is the greatest provide a citation or source for the claim that "the famous "Swing heil!", mock[ed] the infamous "Sieg Heil!"? I am not sure that it is true. Was that phrase (Swing Heil) ever actually used? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.10.38.140 (talk) 19:04, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From the German wiki: Sie trugen englische Mäntel und Hüte, lasen ausländische Zeitungen und grüßten sich untereinander „Swing heil!“ statt mit „Sieg Heil!“. "They wore English coats and hats, read foreign magazines and greeted each other 'Swing Heil!' instead of 'Sieg Heil!'" A search on Google books for "Swing Heil" has 107 results. [1] --76.113.150.171 (talk) 13:13, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This would very hard to verify because it is about a very small cultural phenomenon "mainly in Hamburg and Berlin." It could be that only one person (or no person) ever said "Swing heil" and it was reported once and repeated by a bunch of copycats who liked the story but made no attempt to verify. This happens all the time. You can find certain misspellings of words occurring thousands of times on internet too; it doesn't make it right.

There is a book about the "Swing Kids" that I have seen in a university bookstore. That book should give a source for that claim. Most likely it is one person's anecdote. -- Hadding

Was music really the issue?

I would suggest that musical preferences were not the issue with these so-called Swing Kids. These were some people in Germany with anti-German sentiments who formed their own little clique and just happened also to be fans of swing music. Some of them were arrested on various charges relating to subversion but they weren't all arrested, were they? This is comparable to saying that rock music was persecuted in the 60s because some hippies got themselves arrested.

Music was not the issue. You can prove this to yourself by looking at some of the pop culture from the Third Reich, like films featuring Marika Rökk. --Hadding —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.152.31.203 (talk) 19:01, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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German Wikipedia

The equivalent article in German Wikipedia actually gives the name of this subculture as Swing-Jugend. https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing-Jugend I know, there's not much in a hyphen, and it doesn't affect pronunciation; but if we're discussing a subject the name of which comes out of the German language, and it has no commonly-used equivalent in English, isn't it better to be uniform with the original usage? Nuttyskin (talk) 14:39, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]