Talk:The Trevor Horn Band

This article is written in British English with Oxford spelling (colour, realize, organization, analyse; note that -ize is used instead of -ise) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Pop music

	Pop music portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Pop music, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of articles related to pop music on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Pop musicWikipedia:WikiProject Pop musicTemplate:WikiProject Pop musicPop music articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Biography: Musicians

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by WikiProject Musicians.

Progressive Rock

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Progressive Rock, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Progressive rock on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Progressive RockWikipedia:WikiProject Progressive RockTemplate:WikiProject Progressive RockProgressive rock articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

10cc as associated act

Surely 10cc counts? Many of their live songs are old 10cc hits. If anything, 10cc are more "associated" than The Buggles, since only Horn comes from The Buggles, and the only song the Producers borrow is "Video Killed the Radio Star"? On the other hand, all five members of the Producers have played at Buggles reunions (though not as official members).

Is "two members or more to be associated" an official Wikipedia guideline? Forgive me if it is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arran64 (talk • contribs) 15:31, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Guidance on this is at Template:Infobox_musical_artist#associated_acts. It's more complicated than I remember, but would seem to exclude 10cc to me. Bondegezou (talk) 23:32, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. And I suppose Geoff Downes and Bruce Wooley of the Buggles have both worked with them. But by this rule, would you include the likes of Robbie Williams, whom both Soan and Horn have performed with? That seems a little silly to me. And what of other acts that have performed with the Producers that the members have (as producers) worked with? Tina Charles, for example. Does these come under the "no mutual producers" rule? Pretty confusing stuff when applied to this particular band. Arran64 (talk)

It is difficult to work out how to apply the rules, yes. It seems to me that the connection between Producers and The Buggles is more significant than that with Robbie Williams or Tina Charles, or 10cc. Horn is in both; Downes has played with Producers and seems to be on the album (although I await the liner notes with interest); and the Producers members have played in the recent Buggles reunion shows. A description of this recent resurgence of Buggles activity would necessarily have to talk about Producers. But who does or doesn't go into the associated acts list does seem to be a perennial issue for many Wikipedia articles. Bondegezou (talk) 12:09, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Notability and References tags

I've tagged this article with {{notability}} and {{references}}. I considered putting this article up for deletion. However I've decided to leave it a little bit to allow references and an assertation of notability to be made. (See WP:REF and WP:NOTE. -- Rehnn83 ^Talk 11:11, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

We're talking about a band including at least three very notable people in their own right (Trevor Horn, Lol Creme and Chris Braide), which covers it under WP:MUSIC #6, "Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable; note that it is often most appropriate to use redirects in place of articles on side projects, early bands and such." Given this is an ongoing supergroup, handling it as a sub-section of one of their articles would not work so well. The external links provided do act as references as well, but I agree it could do with more references. Bondegezou 14:00, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As the editor who tagged the article with {{notability}}, I'm now satisfied the Criteria for Notability has been proven. Therefore I have removed the tag. -- Rehnn83 ^Talk 14:28, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Supergroup"

The idea that one person's opinion in a magazine article from 2007 is sufficient to declare this band a "supergroup" is absurd. I have, as such, removed it. 2tuntony (talk) 18:55, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good move. – IbLeo ^(talk) 07:45, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Still active?

The current version of the article starts off by "The Producers were a band...", the infobox say "Years active 2006 - 2009" but the last phrase in the article says "The original line up continue to perform as The Producers" and cites a source. So what is it - do they still exist or not? – IbLeo ^(talk) 07:50, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's not clear. Without Braide, they're continuing to work on an album, but under the name Us, yet they've also played with Braide as The Producers since announcing that strategy. I've updated the page and added one decent cite. If I can find more, I'll add them. Bondegezou (talk) 10:00, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot. At least, now, it's clear in the article that it's not clear :-) – IbLeo ^(talk) 10:20, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Move/merge/duplicate article

The content in this article was cut and pasted to Producers (band), with this article being turned into a re-direct. That article has since been further developed. The band is now going under the name "Producers", rather than "The Producers", so it would be more sensible for this page to be a re-direct and Producers (band) to be the main article. We also want to preserve the edits made since to Producers (band). However, it would also be good to preserve the edit history of the older material. Would it be best for this article to be moved to Producers (band), but the more recent edits in that article to then be added in? Bondegezou (talk) 10:08, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Most of the content of this article was copied from the The Producers (band) article rather than that article being moved. Prior edit history is there. Bondegezou (talk) 20:39, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Histmerge Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:23, 4 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Producers2012.jpg Nominated for speedy Deletion

An image used in this article, File:Producers2012.jpg, has been nominated for speedy deletion for the following reason: All Wikipedia files with unknown copyright status

What should I do?

Don't panic; you should have time to contest the deletion (although please review deletion guidelines before doing so). The best way to contest this form of deletion is by posting on the image talk page.

If the image is non-free then you may need to provide a fair use rationale
If the image isn't freely licensed and there is no fair use rationale, then it cannot be uploaded or used.
If the image has already been deleted you may want to try Deletion Review

To take part in any discussion, or to review a more detailed deletion rationale please visit the relevant image page (File:Producers2012.jpg)

This is Bot placed notification, another user has nominated/tagged the image --CommonsNotificationBot (talk) 05:50, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Inactive?

A couple of recent edits have sought to describe the band as inactive. It is true that we haven't seen any activity from the band for several months. However, I think we should bear in mind (1) policy pertaining to original research and reliable sources, and no reliable source citation has been offered in support of these edits; and (2) that a side-project like Producers is always going to have periods of less public activity, but that doesn't mean the band isn't still a going concern. Indeed, I would point out that a 17 August article in The Times ("Trevor Horn: the man who invented the Eighties", by Ed Potton) about Horn says, "He's not down on modern music per se, enthusing about Rizzle Kicks and, rather surprisingly, David Guetta, but he mourns the loss of fraternity: "There's so much less music made by groups of people now." It's an itch that he scratches through occasional performances with the Producers, a band formed with fellow producers Lol Creme, Steve Lipson and Ash Soan." This implies Producers remains active. Bondegezou (talk) 17:10, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

They're set to play in February, though we'll just have to see whether or not it's a one-off. I think it's best to just call 2013 a hiatus year. SnoopingAsUsual (talk) 16:46, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"...with Braide recording vocals on a new song, "Garden of Flowers""

Regarding this bit of the article (in the second section), isn't "Garden of Flowers" a Horn song? Just wondering if Braide recorded it first before I change it. SnoopingAsUsual (talk) 16:47, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Garden of Flowers" does seem to have been primarily written by Horn, yes. Bondegezou (talk) 17:59, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

But are the vocal's Braide's? I always thought they were Horn's. SnoopingAsUsual (talk) 00:51, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The main vocals are Horn, but Braide (and others) contributed backing vocals. I have the full credits copied from the liner notes at http://www.bondegezou.co.uk/wnalum.htm#producers . Bondegezou (talk) 08:24, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Trevor Horn Band?

Have they changed their name officially to the Trevor Horn Band? Recent press seems to suggest so...

They haven't said anything officially that I've seen, but the last few times they have assembled, they have performed as the Trevor Horn Band or Trevor Horn Orchestra and haven't played anything from Made in Basing Street IIRC. Bondegezou (talk) 11:01, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This citation phrases it as "Former Yes man hooks up with his bandmates from The Producers for March gig" and "Horn will be backed by his The Producers bandmates Steve Lipson, Lol Creme and Ash Sloan for the gig". Bondegezou (talk) 14:37, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This citation explicitly has that Producers have changed their name to The Trevor Horn Band. Reliable enough to change this article? Bondegezou (talk) 17:10, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[1] in the mean time on spotify — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theking2 (talk • contribs) 20:24, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Members

Is it worth mentioning in the infobox that the band seems to have either a lot of members, or members that are constantly changing now? I know it's only for live shows and that Horn, Lipson, Soan and Creme seem to be the constants, but is it worth putting a note in there? Also, maybe a personnel section detailing who's performed (as part of? With?) the band, and when? Just a thought. SnoopingAsUsual (talk) 10:22, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to 2 external links on The Trevor Horn Band. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 07:35, 26 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Trevor Horn Orchestra

Is it the The Trevor Horn Band or The Trevor Horn Orchestra? This is on Spotify :https://open.spotify.com/artist/2YqrATEeR8pt1WlfOQeqBw?si=xaqWPlOJSd-PhhciMSnHpQ

Theking2 (talk) 20:22, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

They are unrelated projects, except In that they both involve Trevor Horn of course! Bondegezou (talk) 18:39, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]