Talk:The Wiz (film)/Archive 1

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Hallelujah! This is a very good article on a very good film. My only question: How the hell was there no article about The Wiz before? -- Kicking222 02:09, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

The film info was lumped in with the info on the original Broadway musical. --FuriousFreddy 02:52, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Great source for this article

  • Silvester, Christopher (2002). The Grove Book of Hollywood. Grove Press. pp. Pages 555–560. ISBN ISBN 0802138780 Check |isbn= value: invalid character (help). 
  • I will expand the article with this source later. How did this make WP:DYK with no sources cited? Cirt 19:33, 25 October 2007 (UTC).

Unsourced, from the article, moved here

Until we find sources for each of these unsourced statements, I have removed all this from the article and put it here as a record. Cirt 00:29, 1 November 2007 (UTC).


Of course, if any sources can be provided to back this stuff up with some context, it could be added back into the article at some point. Cirt (talk) 16:04, 5 December 2007 (UTC).

Free-use images removed?

  • I think the (3) free-use images in the article are tasteful, and relevant. Can someone please explain to me why they were removed without discussion? Cirt) 05:43, 24 November 2007 (UTC).
    • That's just it, however: the pictures are not relevant to this article. They have nothing to do specifically with The Wiz, and weren't taken anywhere near when the film was made. They're just arbitrary images of three people related with the film. Just because they're free use doesn't mean they have to be used.

Examine the featured and good articles on other films, and note what kinds and types of pictures they use. Images of cast/crew are referenced from screenshots, on the set pictures, or official studio publicity related with the film.

With a properly written fair use rationale, a screenshot from or two the film itself would make far more sense and be relevant to the article, since relevant free-use images would be hard, if not impossible, to find.

Also, an article on a musical film doesn't usually include a link to the musical theatre portal, since it's not a work of musical theatre (based upon, yes, but films based on books aren't linked to the literature/books/etc. portal either). --FuriousFreddy (talk) 01:50, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

  • Okay, I'll remove the portal link. However, I think on Wikipedia it is always preferred to use free-use images over fair use rationale images. I sense the project is moving away from fair-use rationale images in general in some respect. Cirt (talk) 04:10, 27 November 2007 (UTC).
I agree the images of Ross, Jones, and Jackson are irrelevant to this article, as none of them relate directly to their participation in the film, and therefore should be removed. Once they are, I'm ready to deem the article worthy of "good article" status. MovieMadness (talk) 14:59, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 Done - I removed the three free-use images. I can see when the majority is in the other direction, and I won't push this further. Thanks for commenting. Cirt (talk) 15:02, 5 December 2007 (UTC).

1999 DVD release

Universal Studios Home Entertainment issued The Wiz on DVD in non-anamorphic widescreen in 1999, updating this release for the film's thirtieth anniversary in 2008 with anamorphic widescreen and a new 5.1 sound mix.

This can't simply be sourced by looking at the DVD - it needs a secondary source, or else it is a violation of WP:OR, not to mention it's unsourced as it stands. Cirt (talk) 05:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

A blog post and IMBD? Not the best of cites for this info... Cirt (talk) 05:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
They're just fine. DVD info on IMDb is not edited by users, but directly by the IMDb staff. And the blog contains an article from a professional website on the movie. --FuriousFreddy (talk) 05:31, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey now, no need to use language like that. In fact, your entire second sentence in this last comment of yours is really not needed at all, and not conducive to a civil discussion. Would appreciate it if you redacted it. Thanks, Cirt (talk) 05:33, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Sentence removed, but fix the article yourself if you're going to undermine my contributions. I don't have the patience to deal with people critiquing where I get references for release dates of a DVD from. --FuriousFreddy (talk) 06:01, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I did. Cirt (talk) 10:44, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


This article has had a Good article reassessment. The result of the reassessment was WP:GA status kept. For more info please see Talk:The Wiz (film)/GA2. Cirt (talk) 04:53, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


Left a note for Killb94 (talk · contribs) about this. Per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kalidah, the term is non-notable and should not be added to the plot summary. Cirt (talk) 20:44, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

[1] = added by Killb94 (talk · contribs). Added by different IPs: [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8]. Cirt (talk) 16:35, 13 October 2009 (UTC)


Please pardon my ignorance here. I only just rented the videotape of this movie. I know almost nothing about African American music, so I have some musical questions.

What is the style of this music called? To me it sounds like some of the songs are sung with a scale that might be different from the well-tempered scale. Is that so? Are there quarter tones for instance? Is that common for African American music? Or was this video so old that the music had become distorted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skysong263 (talkcontribs)

Not sure, perhaps that info would be on the soundtrack. Cirt (talk) 03:19, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
There are many different styles of music in the soundtrack. (talk) 07:31, 21 July 2012 (UTC)