Talk:Theodore II Palaiologos

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Illegitimate son

By a Wet Nurse, Theodore II Palaiologos had at least one illegitimate and protect son:

   Thomas Emanuele Pietro Palaiologos, migrated with his sister Helena Palaiologina to Cyprus.

I am a Byzantinist who specializes in Theodore II Palaiologos, his wife, and rule. I know of no primary source that mentions such a child, nor would at least one of those names be used. I suspect this comes from a Sicilian genealogical list that I have seen cropping up here and there, that gives a lot of Sicilians Byzantine imperial ancestors to which they are not entitled.

Nevertheless, this needs either a respectable citation, or else it needs to be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nauplion (talk • contribs) 04:13, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How about this:

^[1] .. Page 100: Elena (sives Helena) although she grew up a fanatic Orthodox, was persudaded for political reasons to marry King John II of Cprus. The chronicler Leontios Machairas says that Elena Paleologina arrived at Xeros on the North Coast of Cyprus with a large retinue including her wet-nurse, who brought her up and whom Elena almost thought of as her mother. In this retinue was Thomas, the son of Elena's wet-nurse whom Eleni loved as a brother. .. Page 107: The son of Paleologina's wet-nurse, Thomas, had now reached the high position of Chamberlain of the State in Cyprus, He was hated by everyone, as he had the absolute support of Queen Eleni. He was arrogant and cruel, because he knew that the Queen was protecting him. User talk:Comte_de_sayn

This is not a primary source, and I am not sure it qualifies as a WP:RS since it does not appear to be an academic work. The quoted paragraph does not appear to refer to Thomas as Theodore's son, but rather as the son of a wet-nurse who Theodore's daugher loved as a brother. The relevance is not clear to me. Ichthyovenator (talk) 14:44, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Ladies of Medieval Cyprus and Caterina Cornaro by Leto Severis, Nicosia 1995; ISBN 9963-8102-1-7.

[1] Ladies of Medieval Cyprus and Caterina Cornaro by Leto Severis, Nicosia 1995; ISBN 9963-8102-1-7.

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