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"One form of exercise a day"

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It seems to me this is merely the wording Boris used. But what did he actually mean? If interpreted literally, it means simply that all exercise done outside of the home in a single day must be of the same form, be it walking, running, cycling, swimming, playing ball games, dancing in the street or whatever. But I don't suppose this is what was actually meant. I seem to have heard a few different stories about the restriction on exercise:

but these stories don't seem to say anything about number of different forms of exercise.

It may be the case that one of these (most likely the first) is what he actually meant. Or maybe something else entirely. Meanwhile, I'm putting it in quotes as we're giving it as what he said, which may not match with the intended meaning. — Smjg (talk) 10:51, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is covered at The Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (England) Regulations 2020#Government announcements and advice and this article links to them on the "26 March" section. Indeed what's enforceable by law is narrower than what was advised, presumably because they thought in the end it was up to people to make their own mind up and that it would be too difficult to enforce. I'm not sure if it needs mentioning here since someone would easily be able to click the link to go to the legislation article and the "23 March" specifically noted that "the statutory instrument for England omitted any limit on the number of exercise sessions". Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:58, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List of NHS Deaths (The Real Heroes)

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The one thing i can't seem to find on here relating to the Covid-19 is a dated list of Front line workers who have died from the Virus Any chance of this happening. I'm using the information on here to write up memoirs for my Ancestry work and this would help tremendously. There are lists of soldiers who died in the wars - so surely this would count the same as giving their lives to fight the enemy. 86.20.103.37 (talk) 09:09, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Daily death figures

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Although the daily death figures are of course of great importance and do need to be recorded here, it seems extremely inefficient to list the information repeatedly on a day by day basis. It would be not only better use of screen space but also aid understanding to present the information in the form of a graph, for example sourced from Wordometers (the existing graphs don't provide a good whole-period overview). I could make changes if editors agree. MichaelMaggs (talk) 20:29, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like a sensible suggestion, then we can mention them in the daily sections when something significant happens, such as a change to the method of recording deaths, etc. I will say though that I think there are some days missing, particularly towards the beginning. This is Paul (talk) 20:46, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
OK, done. Have kept the narrative death reports where there are daily milestones etc. Have also added a chart of cases, but not sure how useful that is, as it's based on completely unreliable official data, and the figures may well be more a function of number of tests rather than number of actual infections. Would be more than happy to remove that if others think it doesn't add much. Congratulations, by the way, on keeping this page updated daily. MichaelMaggs (talk) 16:53, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It looks good to me, and is better than entering stats for each day. Cheers for the feedback, I'm glad I've been able to help with this. This is Paul (talk) 00:09, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Split suggestion

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I'm wondering whether to split this article into separate timelines for the UK, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Currently it stands at just over 300K, but I could imagine that almost doubling by the end of the year, and it's getting quite cumbersome to edit. Most of the information on here relates to the separate nations so it would be quite easy to do, if a little time consuming. We could keep limited information on here relating to each country (eg, first case confirmed, etc). Any thoughts on this would be very welcome. This is Paul (talk) 16:36, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think this would be worth doing, but as you say it would take some time. All the individual pages seem to exist already, but much of the information tends to go by default into the UK article. Obviously some information would need to be on several pages - eg English people driving into Wales to go to the beach when that wasn't allowed there. The UK page could then be cut back hard to the very high-level stuff. MichaelMaggs (talk) 10:04, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ok fantastic, I think I'll make a start in the next day or so as we're up to 322K now. I'll start with one of the smaller countries as it should be easier to pick out the information. For example, I can do a find on the Chrome menu for Northern Ireland then cut and paste all the Northern Ireland stuff into its own timeline, etc. This is Paul (talk) 14:01, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I thought I'd make a start this afternoon as I had some free time so I've created the timeline for Northern Ireland. I've pared back some of the stuff relating to NI from this article, and reduced it by a whole 12K! Hopefully once I've done some of the others it will shrink more considerably. It should also enable us to build more comprehensive, but smaller, timelines for each constituent country. If there's anything I've taken out that anyone thinks should be included here then please feel free to reinstate it. This is Paul (talk) 16:17, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
All constituent country timelines completed at last, and I've pared back about 80K from this one so it currently stands at around 243K. Apart from the England one it proved to be a lot more straightforward than I thought. Without reading through the individual references it's often difficult to know whether some UK government announcements refer to the UK as a whole or England, particularly in the earlier stages of lockdown. Also I've tended to leave in major changes to the constituent countries, such as the Leicester lockdown, since it was the first in the UK, and the first instance when one of the countries had either no cases in a day or no deaths. Because of these reasons my pruning of this article hasn't been as great as it might, so if anyone else spots information that should be transferred over (or indeed not included in this timeline and another) then please feel free to edit the article. This is Paul (talk) 23:48, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Herd immunity

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Posting a link to the following BBC article for future reference, as some of the information can be used here:

  • Titheradge, Noel; Kirkland, Faye (20 July 2020). "Coronavirus: Did 'herd immunity' change the course of the outbreak?". BBC News. BBC. Retrieved 21 July 2020.

Split suggestion 2

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This is over 300K again so I'm proposing another split, this time along the lines of the India timeline, so we could have something like Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom (January–June 2020) and Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom (July–December 2020). That should make the first one about 230K and the second around 100K, but as we have just over three months of the year left, by the end of December they should be fairly equal in size. I imagine going forward into 2021 we'd create new timeline articles anyway. Let me know what you think. Cheers, This is Paul (talk) 13:52, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agree Makes sense to me, and seems a good solution. Thanks. Crep171166 (talk) 17:55, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ok, I'll do this now. This is Paul (talk) 15:50, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Done: we have 216K for this one and 126K for the one covering the second half of the year. As I say hopefully they should end up pretty much the same size by the end of the year. Think I've got everything linked to both pages updated, but please feel free to let me know if I've missed anything, or to update any erroneous links. Cheers, This is Paul (talk) 16:26, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cases and deaths charts - limiting to June 2020

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I was wondering whether it may be better to limit the scope of the cases & deaths charts to the closed period this particular article covers - i.e. to the end of June only? I have been updating these to current dates; here, as well as on the split article. I have absolutely no problem continuing to do this, but I was wondering whether it may be more appropriate to only show the period covered by this article? Comparisons between 1st & 2nd waves could still be made on the July-December 2020 article (unless there is additional consensus it should also reflect that specific period too?) I personally think the July-December 2020 article should cover everything, so the current data can be compared with the historical, but I am willing to bow to consensus. One advantage of limiting the period in this article is that slightly more detail would be available. Any thoughts? -- Crep1711 (talk) 11:39, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think the statistics on the charts should be split across the 6-month divide, in keeping with the split articles, providing this is not going to create too much work. It's the logical thing to do. I agree that comparisons could still be drawn on the article page for latter half of the year. SpookiePuppy (talk) 18:44, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Many thanks @SpookiePuppy: for the feedback. New cases and deaths charts now inserted to cover the period to 30 June 2020 only - the scope of this article. The subsequent 'waves' can still be compared on the article page for latter half of the year. -- Crep1711 (talk) 12:23, 7 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

first death

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was 30 jan, yet it is not in the timeline - it should be added. the first infeted brit was dec 4 - also not here, yet a diamond princess cas ein japan that was later is listed https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9218845/First-Briton-catch-Covid-26-drugs-died.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.112.30.115 (talk) 21:31, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]