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... that, unusually for a religious subject, depictions of Tobias and the Angel usually show his dog?

Source: Hall, James, Hall's Dictionary of Subjects and Symbols in Art, 1996 (2nd edn.), John Murray, ISBN 0719541476, page 304

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Arthur Fulton (sport shooter)
Comment: sorry, a day or so late ...

5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 240 past nominations.

Johnbod (talk) 01:46, 14 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

This was mentioned in Special:Diff/1223744932. I suggest just dropping the "unusually..." bit:

ALT1: ... that depictions of Tobias and the Angel usually show his dog?

really says everything that has to be said, in less space. RoySmith (talk) 13:27, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think that it is unusual-and it is very unusual-is the hooky bit. It's a short hook anyway. Johnbod (talk) 14:25, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The point of a hook is to be short and sweet, and leave just a little mystery, enticing the reader to click through to the article. There's no need to tell people this is a religious subject, that's obvious from the title of the painting. And there's no need to tell them it's unusual, the fact that there's a dog speaks for that itself. RoySmith (talk) 15:16, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious - gaming/superhero culture is chock full of angels with no religious context at all, & I'm sure vast numbers of our readers have no opinion at all on the frequency with which dogs appear in Christian religious art. Johnbod (talk) 15:36, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

5× expansion of 6 May 2024‎ version completed from 898 characters to 4,527 and nominated eight days later (calculating from this version as opposed to the 2 May version makes this just one day late, so I'm willing to invoke WP:IAR). No copyvios detected (AGF sources which can't go through Dup detector). Article is well-sourced. Main hook is 97 characters long (ALT1 is 61); both are under 200 character max. and are interesting. AGF book for ref 7 (verifying the hook) which is offline. QPQ done. Image is free and in the public domain. Looks good to go! —Bloom6132 (talk) 19:01, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]