Talk:Trade bloc

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Military blocs[edit]

Where can I find a page with 'military blocs'?

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GUAM[edit]

Shouldn't GUAM be included in the list?

no mention of jobs or unions?[edit]

How could there be no mention of jobs or weakening of unions under "Disadvantages"? It seems disingenuous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.201.242.19 (talk) 13:36, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

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EU / political union[edit]

Re "For example, the European Union, started as a trading bloc in 1957 by the Treaty of Rome, has transformed itself into a far-reaching political organization that deals not only with trade matters, but also with human rights, consumer protection, greenhouse gas emissions and other issues only marginally related."

This seems like a perspective straight from UKIP. First of all it is simply not true that it started out only as a trading bloc and evolved into a political union. Although it has certainly evolved, there was a political intent from the very beginning, enshrined in the phrase "ever closer union" (remember these were countries that had been more-or-less continually at war for hundreds of years prior to the start of this process of integration).

The claim that these things are only marginally related (to trade) is debatable at best. Many trade experts would say it is flat-out wrong. Clearly consumer protection is *directly* related. The principle in the EU is that members should not be able to compete on the basis of slashing regulations and/or business taxes (i.e. no race to the bottom). Hence pollution is relevant. Human and labour rights are similarly relevant (so no member can compete using slave or child labour, of example). The EU specifically requires that its member states are democracies and that they abide by their own rule of law. This requirement could be said to be *avowedly* political - but remember that a number of the members have experienced dictatorships in the past (or were such at the beginning of the integration process, and were therefore excluded from it).

A common market needs some form of tribunal or (better) a court or law, to regulate disputes, and to be seen to be doing so fairly and transparently. 'Free trade' in a common market does not mean trade without rules (as some seem to think) but rather trade within collective rules that all the members can, on balance, agree to. This is the hard part of trade agreements - and not tariffs, as many politicians seem to fixated on (because they are easier to understand, explain to the public, and deal with).

The in EU, and several other such unions, there is also a voting council or parliament (in the EU, both) to give greater legitimacy to joint decisions taken within the union.109.147.140.152 (talk) 16:28, 6 January 2017 (UTC)