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Crossover scenes of Yuko Ichihara in Tsubasa and xxxHolic

can anyone make a list of Yuko Ichihara's appearance in Tsubasa anime? thanks. because i'm reading xxxHolic manga and i would like to find out all the parts where these 2 stories interwined.

in chapter 74 of xxxHolic manga, there is a scene of Yuko Ichihara finished talking (perhaps she was doing something else) through black mokona before Watanuki rushing in and ask for help from Yuko. may i know this scene interwines with which part or episode/chapter in tsubasa?

also in chapter 59 of xxxholic manga, can anyone explain what is going on when yuko is using magic and talking to herself? --- 28th Nov 2006

You might want to ask this in a fan forum. Discussion here is about the Wikipedia article only. --KagamiNoMiko 09:21, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Crossover Locations?

I was wondering if anyone supports the idea of adding a new section to the article about crossover locations in the anime, Like, for example, how Hideki's apartment from Chobits is used as the apartment that the group stays in when they are in the Hanshin Republic. I'd be happy to make the section, but I'm new to this Wikipedia thing and I wasn't sure if it would go over well without asking first. --Alvis 22:54, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Personally I'd think that info is a bit too trivial. I can see listing the crossover characters, but places, eh. I think the best thing would just be to note such things in the existing Crossover characters section. -- Ned Scott 22:57, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Can anyone verify that Cerberus DID appear in the anime of Tsubasa or the manga? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.199.252.21 (talk • contribs) .

See comments below. -- Ned Scott 23:18, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Tsubasa Chronicles: Translation to English?

  • Tsubasa from [1] , but the (possible) vio was uploaded by the (claimed) author of the website: does this indicate she gives permission for it to be used under the GFDL, or just that she doesn't understand the GFDL? Pyrop 23:56, Aug 14, 2004 (UTC)
    No copyvio notice. E-mail given at extlink mentioned in article ends in "@dragonmount.com". www.dragonmount.com resolves to 66.221.104.33. No such IP ever edited the article. Somebody wants to follwo-up by e-mail? Lupo 11:29, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Portada del comic en la edición Española por parte de Norma Editorial

IP's of servers and IP's of users are usually quite different. Nobody browses from a server...well almost nobody.Hackwrench 21:08, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Word has it that they're going to translate Tsubasa Chronicles to English and release it this year, is it true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.105.120.220 (talk • contribs)

Tsubasa has been licensed, yes. -- Ned Scott 06:44, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

What about the translation of the original names? Syaoran, Kurogane, Yuuko are pretty hard names for anyone to pronounce, so will they substitute the Japanese names for easier names (just like in Cardcaptors)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.236.189.103 (talk • contribs)

this page is really for discussing issues about the article, it's not really the place for these kinds of questions. I'd check message boards or websites that can be found in the external links section of the main article. -- Ned Scott 08:23, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

The official English translation has now been released, keeping the TRC names, except for crossover character profiles, where they use the full name of the character from the series it came from. Akata 11:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

XXXholic

Connection between ×××HOLiC and Tsubasa? Hackwrench 21:08, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

You're joking, right? you're asking what the connection is between the two? Read the plot summaries of both this article and of ×××HOLiC and you'll understand... -- Ned Scott 04:54, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
The article here seems a little bit light on the subject of the connection between the two. ×××HOLiC is a little bit better it seems, but not much. Hackwrench 19:02, 15 March 2006 (UTC)


Sakura

Just curious. I have only just discovered this Cardcaptors spin off and I got very excited. I've watched Cardcaptors since it aired on English TV. I was wondering if the Sakura Cards were seen in the series, they are her main source of power. And does Kero crossover, it would be a shame if he didn't. :Bubble bunny 07:11, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh this series has much more than just Cardcaptor Sakura. =) You may have to do some research and familiarize yourself with the Japanese side of manga and anime. CLAMP has authored many, many series, and Tsubasa is the crossover, the alternate universe, that encompasses pretty much all of them. "Spinoff" is not really the best word here. I think CLAMP chose Sakura and Syaoran as part of the main cast, because those two are their most well-known couple. But that's about it--the characters' likenesses. Personalities are different in Tsubasa. ...Suggesting that you stop by a bookstore and read a few volumes to find out for yourself what of CCS you discover. Remember that these talk pages cannot get chatty like this; discussion has to be about the article itself, not just its subject. --Crisu 10:58, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

There's no reason for Kero to crossover, unless they end up visiting the Sakura we know from CCS. I aswell would very much like to see this included into the manga but i doubt it will happen, Tsubasa is a compleatly different storyline, just with some characters that are alternate forms of other CLAMP characters (apart from Yuko).

---Justice-02.07.07-16:14---

I don't belive the characte Kero him self makes a cameo in this, but I recall seeing statues based on Kero's designe in an episode--ShortShadow 20:55, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Kero does show up on episode 44, but not when they visit the Sakura we know from CCS. It is in some other world where Kero is supposedly the protector or something.

Split Article

There is plenty of information on the Manga and on the Anime, but I purpose we split the Manga and Anime Series into diffrent sections. Much like Movie Articles based on Books, much like the Harry Potter movies have their own section. [2] --ShortShadow 17:29, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't think an article split would be a good idea. While there are differences between the anime and manga, they are.. minor. Much like Cardcaptor Sakura and Chobits and other CLAMP anime/manga articles (as well as tons of other anime/manga articles on wiki). So much info applies to both that splitting the articles hurts us more than it helps. Editors seem to think that individual articles are somehow more important or show a greater importance of the subject. This is nothing more than information management. -- Ned Scott 19:43, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
I think it would be better to spike the list of crossover character, it really isn't encyclopedic material. Also, there aren't many differences in the plotline between the manga and the first season of the anime besides the order of events and some additional filler episodes. But I don't know if there have been any more expansive changes in the second season other when they visit certain worlds. --TheFarix (Talk) 23:40, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, a split / removal / trimming of the crossover characters seems like a good idea. -- Ned Scott 23:47, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
I've been thinking if it might be a better idea to mention Tsubasa appearences on the individual series articles instead. That way, the information would be distributed, which may not be ideal, but at least it wouldn't take up so much space at once. --KagamiNoMiko 20:58, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

I didn't notice until now that there are two leads on this article. The first is already in the lead section and the second is in the Tsubasa Chronicle. These two leads should really be combined into one. --TheFarix (Talk) 12:07, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

That was my bad. I merged the info from Tsubasa Chronicle a while back and probably didn't do a very good clean up. whoops. -- Ned Scott 20:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Age group

Is it possible to include the recomended age ratings for the anime/manga in the info box?--perfectblue 14:21, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I recall seeing a info-box of some sort that featured an ESRB rating, so maybe there is one for this. I don't know however, otherwise you could start a section for certification --ShortShadow 20:53, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it would be appropriate for the infobox. If you would like to included some cited information on target audiences in the article itself, then that would be alright. -- Ned Scott 23:48, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Story arcs

If anybody has seen the Naruto page, there is a link to List of Naruto story arcs. I was wondering if somebody could create one for Tsubasa chronicles, identifying which are manga only. This helps people identify which are filler episodes (anime only) and which are originally from the manga.

I'm going to start on a story arcs page, but it'll take a while, so the link will be red for a bit. I'll start off with just the manga arcs and go on to add anime arcs. PeRiDoTs13 15:20, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Alternatively, since there is currently a list of anime episodes, maybe someone can identify the ones that are anime only to differentiate which are filler episodes.

Jettabebetta 23:46, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

I think that might be a good idea as the anime deviated from the manga storyline so people might be confused as to what should be considered cannon and what should not

Jazz1893:05, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Crossover Characters Description

Can some one make a crossover character pages for the Crossover character Sorata and Arashi has major supporting roles Kamui takes a big role by Chapter 10 being he is also a major character in X Seishomaru too has to have his own Tsubasa page since his description in Tokyo Babylon and X may confuse readers if we write about it there.

user:layamin August 26, 2006 3:56pm

I agree--but I think there should probably be a whole seperate page for the crossover characters and their role in the story (so the Tsubasa article doesn't get too long). Some of them are really trivial, or not even backed up, but others have a fairly significant part that is worthy of mention. I think it would be interesting to perhaps describe the character if they're acting in tribute to their alternate selves as well (ie Yuzuriha fighting alongside Inuki in Outo, or Emeraude's intentions being misunderstood by the people of her country), especially when the character is almost quoting lines from their former series. This might be going too far or losing the tone of an encyclopedia, but I still think a seperate page even with just a brief description of the crossover character's role/place would be helpful. A seperate page would also be able to clear up the confusion over whether or not the character is appearing in the manga or anime. Irish Pearl 19:16, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Kurogane - ninja or samurai?

Ned Scott has replaced "ninja" with "samurai", but at least the German translations of both the manga and CLAMP no Kiseki quite clearly identify Kurogane as a ninja. Unless someone has other sources, I'll change this back. --KagamiNoMiko 17:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

And changed. --KagamiNoMiko 15:33, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Anime issues

I just realized while looking at the credits CLAMP was not involved with the production of Tsubasa Chronicle anime. They didn't write the scripts for any of the episodes should it be stated or not? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jazz189 (talk • contribs).

I'm not sure, I mean, I kind of assumed they didn't write the scripts since the anime is an adaptation from the manga, but I can see where the confusion could be. It might be a good idea to make clear the anime-manga production relationship for all CLAMP articles. Not just for this situation, but it could also make for some good out-of-universe and interesting article content. For one, while I know they didn't write the scripts, I do assume that the anime follows the manga somewhat closely, but I haven't been reading the manga so I could be wrong. -- Ned Scott 09:32, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

The anime deviates from the manga at the start of the second season, in other reports I heard that CLAMP admitted to being to being upset with the anime version of Tsubasa Chronicle, and now kinda ignore its existance. This is weird because sometimes CLAMP does writes the scripts to anime adaptions of their manga, they did with CCS, and xxxholic, Rayearth, etc.--Jazz189 20:55, 8 December 2006

Wow, I think if we can get some sources for this, this info would make a great addition to many CLAMP-related articles. It should definitely be mentioned when they do and do not write / contribute / etc to their anime adaptations, and giving CLAMP's reactions to the animes as well. -- Ned Scott 04:01, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

One of the links in the external links page links up to the website that I got the info from and besides a few speculation on whether or not there will be a third season here and there, otherwise they keep their site for reference purposes only. I also found out about it by trolling Tsubasa Forums, on sites where they value authencity ex: Clow Legacy. Though the thread has passed its prime and is no longer around, also another site to get it is Captured Wings.net where although you'll run into a fanatic or two, they pretty much value authencity as much as the other site. I trust them cause they have a tendency to give negative reps for people who post false information on CLAMP. Jazz189 10:21, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Chi - to keep or not to keep?

I just reverted the Chi section to the previous version, and then I thought - why the h... is she even on the secondary characters' list? She appears once in the manga and twice in the anime, and what little relevance she has to the plot is covered by Fay's entry. Characters like Touya and Yukito, who appear more often and have at least some role to play, don't have an entry, so why does she? --KagamiNoMiko 15:10, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

The second that Chi appears episode in itself must not be taken seriously so I think that fans need to know that, it wasn't a part of the creators intention and was instead an interpretation of the animation studio. There is already confusion about this so it has to be cleared up, especially because it went against one of Clamp's basic rules concerning their couples. So the fans do need to know that that episode holds no weight at all.

--Jazz189 10:28, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

But this isn't a fansite - this is an encyclopedia. As I said, I don't think Chi should have a place on that list at all. A mention on the list of crossover characters should suffice, as it does for all other minor characters. --KagamiNoMiko 20:56, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Then move her she's too minor of a character to be on the secondary characters anyway. She isn't even mentioned after the first chapter, when she became a alarm system. Oh and I know that this is an encyclopedia that also exists to inform people, so that statement existed to inform them. --Jazz189 1:11, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

She has a quite a bit more later in the anime (second season) and although i haven't read the manga that far, I assume she's heavily related to Fay's past and story.

That's why Ashura-oh is justifiedly on the secondary characters' list. But Chi hasn't been mentioned in the manga ever again, so I doubt she'll turn out to be important. And if she does, well, she can always be put in again. --KagamiNoMiko 17:14, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

you also shouldn't rely on the anime as an official source of Tsubasa as CLAMP took no part in its creation. Almost the entire second season of the anime was filler, and Chi only appeared for one filler episode which wasn't even based on an omake. so no Chi (though she is one of my favorites) is not important. --Jazz189 9:02 20 December 2006 (UTC)


Petition

Could we get an external link for the petition mentioned in the trivia section? Dinkybarrel 21:02, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Conflicting Information?

The main introduction to the article states that there will be a 3rd season for the anime in April, but the "Tsubasa Chronicle" section states that the second season was the final season. Which is which? - Dinkybarrel 04:11, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't have the source off hand, but I know there will be a total of eight cours(four seasons), regardless of when the manga itself ends. They'll continue the method of taking two cours off and then doing two until they reach the final episode count. Bee Train has yet to mention that they're done animating the series, so it would be best to have the line stating that the anime is done removed. Yaguruma 15:43, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
The thing about four seasons wasn't even mentioned. From beginning it was planned as Three season anime. Thirs season is unlikely, due to the fact that Clamp was angry about the way second season was done. Also it was already announced that 2007, may Tsubasa Chronicle DVD "Featuring all episodes" will be released in USA. So the best thing would be to write that there's no info about season 3, with the refference that Season 3 is unlikely to happen.

Animax-Latin America

The anime isn't show yet in Latin America on Animax. This information is incorrect Xbox6 02:28, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

AT LAST someone realized it. Friends, Anime News Network isn't always trusty (regardless of its slogan). Twicemost 21:42, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

???

PLEASE TELL ME DOES THIS MANGA/ANIME HAVE A HAPPY ENDING?--SAIKANO!!! 17:18, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

One, it hasn't ended yet - which you'd know if you'd read the article - and two, this page is for discussion about the article, not the series itself. --KagamiNoMiko 18:46, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Kurogane Ninja/Samurai

Although this is a debated subject. I would suppose Kurogane to be a Samurai since he was in Japan (yes Ninjas were in Japan too) and he weilds only katanas in Tsubasa Chronicle. It isn't said so in the anime but I suppose him to be a samurai. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vghistorian (talk • contribs) 01:10, 12 February 2007 (UTC).

Ninja are often depicted with katana too, and anyway Kurogane is called a ninja in both the manga and CLAMP no kiseki. You can probably argue that his father was most likely a samurai, and so he should be one too, but he does serve Tomoyo as a ninja. --KagamiNoMiko 19:45, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
You may argue that Kurogane is a Samurai-turned-Ninja. He was a samurai when he lived in Suwa Country with his parents, where he battled the deamons and all. But later on when he went to serve Princess Tomoyo, he served as a Ninjs protecting the castle. So maybe the article could state this point and allow the reader to make up their own minds about whether Kurogane is a Samurai or Ninja. --Pavithran 14:24, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

I would prefer that the term 'ninja' used instead of 'samurai'. Because, isn't a samurai supposed to be like searching for opponents and to fight to their death in search of honour? Samantha Lim88 01:45, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I agree with you, I can't compete there cause I didn't read the manga, so, Kurogane is a ninja —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.56.41.91 (talk) 22:59, 21 February 2007 (UTC). 74.56.41.91 23:00, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Fay/Fai/Fye?

I notice there's again been a little controversy on how to spell our dear magician's name. The article on his character is currently located at Fay D. Flourite, per the romanization in the official Guide, while this article uses "Fai D. Flowright" (currently) consistently. However, I think it would be nice to be consistent throughout this Wikipedia, so I propose to use "Fay" in every article where he is mentioned. Thoughts? --KagamiNoMiko 10:20, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


I would agree to use "Fay D. Flowright". It's the official name after all -- Samantha Lim88

Agree. What's to stop us from using the official name? — Blue。 03:32, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

The correct name is Fay D. Flourite. <_< Akata (talk) 20:38, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

The end...ing?!

All i want to know is will this end good or bad? I know it is not wikiable just dont even tell me what im doing is illegeal i know just please tell me yes or no! thats all!--Takaomi I. Shimoi 17:53, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't think the ending has come out yet, anime or manga. ..but it's being done by CLAMP, so it's likely a "happy" ending. -- Ned Scott 20:41, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
...ok...i guess...--Takaomi I. Shimoi 12:31, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Clamp said the ending was going to be happy, but then again these are the same people who called the conclusion between Subaru and Seishuro happy, so yeah their definition of happy might not be happy in your book. So far 2/3 of the story of Tsubasa has been told. --Jazz189 13:01, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

CLAMP have revealed that one of the characters will not have a happy ending. Akata 11:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

..So it ends at volume 23? Is that the same with the OVA? -someguy 03 July 2007

I doubt that it will end with 23. My bet is on 25 or 29.--78.57.185.135 23:21, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

removing Card Captor Sakura as a See also and replacing it with xxxholic

Its been bothering me lately why Card Captor Sakura is in the see also section. I mean it has nothing to do with Tsubasa besides the two of the main characters. Also Tsubasa is neither a spin off nor a sequel to CCS, its a different story entirely, which are besides for characters are not connected. What happens within the world of Tsubasa does not or has not affected the storyline of CCS, and vice versa. The only thing they have in common are a Syaoran and Sakura as leads (even though they're personalities are different and getting even different as the story moves along), and the fact they're made by Clamp. The events in xxxholic on the other hand does affect Tsubasa and vice versa, and from what I could gather from that clamp interview they will be crossing over even more now. Only the characters are originally from their and the link is already in their profiles. To put Card Captor Sakura in the see also section is like calling Tsubasa a sequel or spin off of CCS, which it isn't, you don't need to read or watch to understand Tsubasa. Also in a Clamp interview they stated that the main characters of Tsubasa could have easily been other characters, its just because Syaoran and Sakura were one of their few characters to have a happy ending (though this logic scares me). And if we're putting CCS there then we should also put other Clamp series with no relevance to Tsubasa like X/1999 or Angelic Layer. --Jazz189 2:02, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Season 3

IS there or will be season 3? I saw many information that said season 3 started in april 7. If this is true please update this article. -ScotchMB 17:07, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

No one knows, it seems. There's a lot of rumors going around, but we avoid putting rumors in Wikipedia since they're not verifiable. -- Ned Scott 04:41, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
There is no season three of Tsubasa currently being aired the spring anime have all already either been announced or have already aired. The likely hood of a season three of Tsubasa or at least one directed by Bee Train is slim to none. If you had checked the Tsubasa message boards you would have seen the post, that had details of the official website which Tsubasa Chronicle is listed as a finished work, you can also fin the transcript for the party they threw to celebrate the end of the anime on CLAMP radio. This same transcript contains an interview with BeeTrain animators, who state that airing Fye's past would be impossible, which kills any chances of a third season as Fye's past becomes a key factor in storyline. CLAMP also broke their contract with Bee Train and NHK, check the Tsubasa forums once in a while they may actually post something important to the series. -- Jazz189 04:49, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
I see, sorry for my ignorance. This cleared many stuff up for me. =) -ScotchMB 02:55, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Okay now its official - Theres NO Season3, http://www.tsubasa-kuronikuru.com , which is by the way an official japanese web of tsubasa chronicles was updated at May 5th, with news stating, that "the broadcast of this anime is ended. Thank you for support". I quess someone should add up the info about anime being ended already...--88.118.59.121 08:23, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Next volume

When is the next volume coming out? User:Leader Vladimir 8 May 2007

The next Japanese volume after your post would be Volume 19, released on 15 June, 2007. The next Japanese volume now would be Volume 21, released on 16 November, 2007. The next UK volume now would be Volume 8, released on 1 May, 2008. Akata 11:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

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OVA and Horitsuba

I just added to the Animation section a bit about the OVA that has been announced (sort of). Because it is kind of iffy (the information source for it was taken down by Kodansha not long after it went up) if someone wants to edit it or leave it out until more official confirmation comes, okay. This is where my information came from by the way: http://community.livejournal.com/clamp_now/236475.html

Also, shouldn't this article have a section on Horitsuba Gakuen? It is an official AU (radio drama) which involves all of the main characters from Tsubasa. User:Grianne June 11 2007

Sayoran and Sakura separate pages

I think we should separate Trc sayoran's and trc sakura's character pages from their cardcaptors counterparts...seriously all they have in common are the names and faces, and cardcaptors storyline is not connected with tsubasa storyline(except one character, who's dead anyway). --78.57.185.135 16:13, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Why is the title Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle?

I wonder why is the title spelled that way, shouldn't it be Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle? Samantha Lim88 01:48, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Tsubasa: RESERvoir Chronicle is an official spelling used by CLAMP manga. the :is indeed in the title.--78.57.185.135 16:32, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
To be nit-picky, it's actually Tsubasa: RESERvoir CHRoNiCLE. Also that's the name the English dub goes by. Ggctuk (talk) 15:59, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Tsubasa game

I found out about it here. I hope it's helpful.

Source 1
Source 2

Samantha Lim88 14:05, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

To note, there is also a second DS game, "Tsubasa Chronicle Vol.2". Akata 11:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

TSUBASA- ENGLISH TRANSLATION

76.17.255.178 18:44, 28 August 2007 (UTC)how many books of Tsubasa Reservior Chonicles are there in the english translation?

Seven books have currently been released in the UK by Tanoshimi. Eight more volumes are set to be released on May 1st, 2008. Akata 11:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

UK release

About it being released in the UK, does anyone know what channel they will be showing it on? I can't wait for it to come out. I heard some of the dub, not all that. User: TazK23 09:29, 6th August 2007

I don't know if it is being shown on any TV channel. However, one DVD volume and the Starter Set are currently available. The second one comes out on Monday. Akata 11:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)


listen:

1- I don't know how speak in Inglish because I am from Spain. 2- If I made a mistake in the Grammar, good I agree. But you have not due to erase what I said regarding that Syaoran was the only one who could match the powers of Fei Wang Reed because I read the manga and I can assure you that there say it. I did not invent anything. Forgive me my mistakes, sorry. By the Way it's Fei Wang Reed, no Fei Wong Reed and it's Fay D. Flourite no Fye or Fai D. Flouright.--190.78.118.108 22:44, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually its "Fei Wan Reed"(without "g"). And Fai's surname is different in english and japanese versions. English version retains "Flowright", while japanese uses "Flourite", however "Flourite" is more accurate --78.57.185.135 (talk) 22:53, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

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Character Section: Real Syaoran/Clone Syaoran

Should we really differentiate this in the summary for the characters? It's perfectly all right for the main character article, but it's rather spoilery for people who aren't very far into the series and are reading the main series article for some background/general info. PeRiDoTs13 06:38, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

That is well What happens is that many people acted as if there were no difference between the two characters, and that's fine clarify that these are two different people, not just one.--190.78.118.108 22:37, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
But we should not use the spoilerific "REAL" and "CLONE" right in the title. There should be another way to differentiate them.--78.57.185.135 (talk) 23:13, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Japanese sites seem to use "Syaoran" (real) and "[Syaoran]" (clone) but that isn't quite good in a wiki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.36.229 (talk) 10:25, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Well if they need backround information they should read the book from the begining and not cheat by going on wiki, or if they do they should expect spoilers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tohru94 (talk • contribs) 02:55, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Longest running series?

How come this is the longest running series if it started in May 2003 while xxxHolic starts in February. —Preceding unsigned comment added by David13579 (talk • contribs) 19:58, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Longest not by time but by story size. Till TRC, X was the longest runing series. Holic currently has 147 chapters and TRC has 176 already —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.57.185.135 (talk) 23:22, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Tsubasa Story Arcs?

There used to be an entire page dedicated to the story arcs of Tsubasa, and now that link is just being redirected to the Tsubasa main page, where there is absolutely no detailed information about the individual arcs. The individual story arc page was extremely helpful, with information on when each arc started, ended, and a mini plot summary. I don't understand why in the world it was merged with the main page, because that was a massive waste of time if Wikipedia's goal is to provide as much useful information about this topic as possible. - Fantastigalx3kim, 10:56 AM, 2008 May 11.

I need this page, how do I find it again? - 86.10.76.240 (talk) 16:03, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

The page was redirected because its beyond excessive plot and fan-opinion and original research. It has no place here, period. Wikipedia is not a plot guide, and such pages have been deleted in AfD repeatedly. We have episode lists and chapter lists to give brief summaries. Wikipedia's goal is not to provide as much "useful" information about this topic, it is to provide an appropriate amount of verifiable, real-world information about the topic, with only brief plot summaries and information necessary to give a reader a basic overview of the series for understanding the context of the real-world aspects.AnmaFinotera (talk) 16:20, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Spoken like an elitist snob. If that's the case, then the ONLY thing that should exist for the Tsubasa page is that it is a manga created by CLAMP (Wait! Wikipedia renamed them because CLAMP is evil spelling.), it is linked with the xxxHOLiC manga, and certain anime titles were created. Everything is extraneous and should be deleted immediately.
I came over here looking for crossover information and it looks to have all been deleted. That just pissed me off to no end. Seriously, Wikipedia gets worse and worse as the years go on. "Real-world" my ass. What a laugh considering this is a work of fiction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.196.137.145 (talk) 09:58, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

That's the thing, though. There are no longer any episode or chapter lists. Just the fact that someone had to ask where it went, just the fact that someone needed information about the story arcs proves that the information shouldn't have been merged. Perhaps an entire page about it was not necessary, but there's nothing about any of the chapters on the main Tsubasa page. And with an encyclopedia, like Wikipedia, isn't it best to have slightly more than needed than an entire chunk of basic information simply not there? - Fantastigalx3kim, 9:44 PM, 2008 May 20. — Preceding comment signed as by Fantastigalx3kim (talk • contribs) actually added by 69.244.116.240 (talk • contribs)

(edit conflict) The episode list is at List of Tsubasa Chronicle episodes. I do agree, that a proper chapter list needs to be done, rather than the short list of volumes in the media list. However, that is no reason to have a bad story arc page. I do not have access to the chapters myself, so I can not do more than make a shell for the chapter list with the lead, volume numbers, ISBNs, and starting references. If someone can come behind me to fill in the chapter names and cover characters (I can only identify a few not having read mot CLAMP media), I'd be quite willing to do the first part. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 01:52, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
I've got immediate access to volumes 1 through 15, so I can help out to a certain extent. I do have to ask, though, why is it that you have read so little of CLAMP's work? It really is very excellent stuff. ;) —Dinoguy1000 16:14, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
LOL. I have read CCS (love love love) and seen X but not read the manga. I skipped Tsubasa after some early mixed reviews of the anime. Working on this article has made it seem more interesting, though :P I'll try to get the shell together tonight or tomorrow. A bit too wikistressed to do a good job right now. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 16:17, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Interesting... I haven't been able to read CCS yet, nor have I read or seen X (although I've seen an OVA version of it), but I think my first exposure to CLAMP was a few episodes of Angelic Layer. As for Tsubasa, it's really really good (I wish I could get my hands on more volumes, but I'm not sure if they've even been released in English past 16), although once the real Syaoran steps in, things can get a bit confusing (which is why I'm really glad Tokyopop weren't the ones that translated it, and am very satisfied with Dark Horse's job of it). That aside, depending on how bored I end up being, you may find that shell already started/mostly done. ^_~ —Dinoguy1000 17:28, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
LOL, that's cool too. :) I forgot, I have also seen Chobits. I wonder if my library has any volumes I can sample (like I really need to start another series...my poor bookcases shelves are already bending :P ) -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 18:34, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Cool, I haven't seen or read that one yet, either... How many series do you have volumes from? I don't actually own any, so I have to rely on the library and the regional request system (it can be quite frustrating waiting six or seven weeks for someone to turn a given volume in... And I've had at least two volumes disappear on me in transit =P ). Back to the main topic, I got bored enough to do the shell, have a look at List of Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle chapters. I haven't looked up any sources yet, but I'm gonna go fetch some volumes in a minute and start on the chapter lists. —Dinoguy1000 18:41, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Not counting the orders I have out at the moment, I have 467 manga volumes, and 12 light novel volumes, spread across four bookcases. 65 series are in there, plus a bunch of one shots. :) Cool beans on starting the list. Want me to add in the lead? -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 18:49, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
o_O Gah... That's got to be almost as much as I've read total! Now I'm starting to feel jealous... ;) Go ahead with the lead, I suck at writing them (the one serious effort I made to write a lead (List of Case Closed chapters) ended with me copying much of the lead off of other chapter lists and winging the rest =P ). —Dinoguy1000 19:01, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
LOL, now you know my secret ;) To get the hang of it, I started with some of our beautifully done FL lists and worked from there! -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 19:05, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
One of the best reasons to include the Tsubasa story arcs on Wikipedia is because the huge amount of crossover from other CLAMP series. I just started watching the Tsubasa DVDs (having viewed all of the xxxholics currently on DVD) and I came to Wikipedia to get an indication of other manga or DVDs I should check out. Summarized plots don't spoil the experience for me--they are enticement for me to keep going. Just hearing that a character "appears" in a different series or is "from" a different series it not enough. I am interested in the relationships between the characters (such as clone/real/substitute) and in the types of interaction they have. Crossover in the CLAMP series is a defining trademark of their work and these story arcs deserve documentation on Wikipedia. There's nothing like this in American animation. Please reconsider inclusion of this information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.236.16.199 (talk) 00:47, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Tsubasa Merger

So... what are you suggesting should be merged to where, Dinoguy1000? 78.105.51.236 (talk) 21:15, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

The OP/ED themes and DVD info need to be merged to the episode list, pretty much everything else should be merged here, and I think all of it needs to be converted to prose (and the VA section should just be cut, since that information should already be present on the character list). Sorry for not tagging more specifically, but I tend to be lazy like that. =) 「ダイノガイ千？！」(Dinoguy1000) 22:11, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
You may need to move the VA section then, that info's not on the character list and when anime-only stuff was tried to be added to Tsubasa characters before, it was reverted. Also the VA section itself anyway is out of date, spells names wrongly (possibly people copied from FUNimation DVDs) and doesn't include the TTR characters. 78.105.51.236 (talk) 22:19, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Generally, anime staff members aren't noted aside from the writer, director, and voice actors. The VAs can be added to the character list with {{anime voices}}, and it should be abundantly easy to get the correct VA info. 「ダイノガイ千？！」(Dinoguy1000) 22:23, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
I added merged the VAs with the character list except for ones in the next table, though I'm not sure if I should have put the characters' voice actors on all of their appearances, since they probably do not say lines in every country that they appear in and it might be redundant. I haven't deleted the VAs from the media page yet.

AngelFire3423 (talk) 15:09, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

If a character has a section on the character list, they should have VA info included. I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about, though; could you clarify for me? 「ダイノガイ千？！」(Dinoguy1000) 19:51, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
I put voice actors in List of Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle characters#Crossover characters. I was under the impression that you wanted this merged to it. AngelFire3423 (talk) 13:25, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Eew, that's not pretty. That whole "crossover" section really just needs to be cut, and replaced with some sort of generic "this series crosses over with many of Clamp's other works" note. There also seem to be some (recurring) characters on the list that don't have any seiyuu/VA information...? And yeah, that was the section I was referring to. Once it's been properly merged, that table can be cut. 「ダイノガイ千？！」(Dinoguy1000) 19:33, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Yeah there are quite a few characters that don't have VA like Miyuki, but the table in the media section didn't have a seiyuu/VA for them, so... For some, it might be because some of them don't actually have any lines in the anime even if they do appear. I'm wondering how exactly you want the seiyuu/VAs to be put in the character section if you want the cross-over section cut. Maybe as like the table it already is in? AngelFire3423 (talk) 20:02, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Nope, just cut them. If we listed every single VA for a series in the character list, then List of Naruto characters (for example) would be absolutely massive. ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」(Dinoguy1000) 20:10, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Is the Tsubasa Chronicle media information looking better now? I'd like to move it to List of Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle albums. AngelFire3423 (talk) 21:37, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it looks much better now, excellent work! I went ahead and moved it; you may want to ask KrebMarkt and Quasirandom for tips on how to proceed further (he's done a lot of work on List of Aria (manga) soundtracks, getting it up to B-Class). ;) 「ダイノガイ千？！」(Dinoguy1000) 17:23, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

OVA vs. OAD

OAD is not used very often and they're often classified as OVAs. I've changed it to reflect this. - plau (talk) 15:59, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

For all intents and purposes, they should simply be treated as the same thing. "OVA" is an acronym for "original video animation", and "OAD" for "original animation/animated DVD" - the only difference between the two is that OVAs specifically are released on VHS tapes, whereas OADs are released specifically on DVDs. It's a level of detail that's completely irrelevant and inappropriate for Wikipedia. 「ダイノガイ千？！」(Dinoguy1000) 20:19, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but you are completely wrong! An OAD is an OAV that is released with merchandsing and it's not available at the store. Most of OAV are released on DVD (who told you about VHS? That was decades ago) and they are available at the store, where OAD, such as Tsubasa TOKYO REVELATIONS, Tsubasa Shuraiki and xxxHOLiC Shunmuki are only available with the deluxe edition of the manga.
If fact, ANN states: "An Original Anime DVD (original animation DVD or OAD), is an OAV released on DVD as an extra with a volume of manga." --125.24.204.57 (talk) 05:23, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
OVA/OAV was originally used to refer specifically to VHS releases (and thus OAV could also quite easily be short for "original animation on VHS"), before DVDs ever gained a significant foothold in the market. Yes, that was years ago; no, it doesn't make it irrelevant. ANN specifically states that "OAD" is short for "original animation on DVD", which is the DVD equivalent of OAV. The argument that OAD refers specifically to a release that includes other merchandise is nonsense, since OVA releases can just as easily include bonus merchandise. The simple fact is that OVA and OAD/ODA are interchangeable (regardless of what ANN claims), and any notes on merchandise being included with a release should be made in the prose rather than assuming the reader will understand it from the acronym used. 「ダイノガイ千？！」(Dinoguy1000) 19:53, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
And when a UK anime magazine review Tsubasa Shunraiki and xxxHoLic Shunmaki [sic], they call them something new altogether, "OVD", which they state mean "Original Video DVD". Also, I've seen several OADs being sold at stores. Akata (talk) 23:03, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Reviews

Here are some reviews if anyone feels like making a reception section. They are all from ANN.

Manga
Anime

AngelFire3423 (talk) 18:07, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh here is an article I just found though I'm not sure how reliable it is. AngelFire3423 (talk) 20:34, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

More reviews for the anime:

AngelFire3423 (talk) 17:45, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Striking out three that are clearly not reliable (ie. user submitted reviews). —Farix (t | c) 14:34, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Production

I'm wondering if everything I put in there is relevant since it's the first time I've written such a section. Also how do you go about citing translations with the {{cite book}} template? AngelFire3423 (talk) 19:27, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Drama of Tragedy

I keep seeing about half of the sites having Tsubasa as a tragedy series, and it's rather annoying. Drama is sad events, tragedy is devestating events. If this was a tragedy show, then Fai and Kurogane would be dead as Shyoran continues his journey to save Sakura, or something similar to that. Tragedy and drama are different, and that includes mellow drama, over dramatic, whatever you want to call it, Tsubasa has not yet taken a path to being Tragedy. The most tragic things happens between these two interwining stories (XXXHolic and Tsubasa), is what happens to Yuko, which is focused on in Holic, and Holic isn't even listed as a drama on here! You can call Tsubasa overdramatic if you like, at times I think it is even though I love it, but it is not a Tragedy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DrBoondigga (talk • contribs) 22:46, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

While consensus may change, that doesn't mean that you can change the genres on your own before a new consensus is reached. Therefore, I've reverted your change to the genre for the time being. However, since the genre is being disputed, then it will require a reliable source. --Farix (Talk) 00:09, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Also, it's your own interpretation/opinion on what the most tragic event in the series is. Tsubasa doesn't focus nearly as much on Yuko as does xxxHolic, and I haven't seen any hints of such an event in any of Yuko's appearances in Tsubasa. Personally (my own interpretation/opinion), I think the most tragic part of the series is the fact that the price for Syaoran's journey must be all of Sakura's memories of him prior to that incident, and it definitely feels "severe" enough to justify a "Tragedy" label over a "Drama" label. As Farix said, though, now that the genres have been called into question, it will require a reliable source to settle the issue. 「ダイノガイ千？！」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 19:28, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Citeable genres

The one genre that is consistent across all reliable sources is "fantasy". So I'm changing the genre list to just "fantasy" and adding it in text of the lead with a reference to Del Rey Manga. Adventure could be added as at least two of the sources also place it in that genre. --Farix (Talk) 22:24, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Spoilers!

Having just finished reading Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle, I came to Wikipedia to get some background information on the series, and I am truly astonished that the plot overview begins with spoilers! The revelation of Syaoran's true name being Tsubasa is pretty much the last thing that happens in the story, the whole section of "Events before the series" seems redundant, as they take place during the series, but in the past. Surely it would make more sense to have the plot overview in the order that the plot happens? Starting the Plot section with "things that happen before the story but you don't find out 'til the end" doesn't seem fair to those who don't know. If I read through a whole article about the plot (of anything) I expect spoilers, but not the opening paragraph.

As a more mainstream parallel, I doubt the article on The Sixth Sense be unaltered if it began "Bruce Willis plays the ghost of a dead Psychiatrist who is only visible to Haley Joel Osment's character...", somehow I think not.

Obviously as an informative article the content must reflect the facts which occur, but I think they could be better arranged for the sake of those yet to read the book and to reflect the content of the book more accurately. Willipedian (talk) 02:49, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Note that Wikipedia explicitly does not avoid spoilers. That being said, this whole article needs cleaned up, and the plot section is no exception. Someone who has read the whole series and is familiar with how it interplays with xxxHolic needs to give an accurate overview of the whole series, including all major plot points. 「ダイノガイ千？！」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 20:50, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Do you think it would be a good idea to include a differences between adaptations section in the plot? I'm not really sure. I really would to fix the article myself but I don't have the time. AngelFire3423 (talk) 12:22, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Not without proper sources; otherwise it's personal synthesis. 「ダイノガイ千？！」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 19:49, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
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