Talk:UEFA Euro 2012 broadcasting rights

ESPN Deportes

ESPN Deportes is broadcasting in Spanish, which differ to usual ESPN which broadcast in English and it can't be mixed. In Canada, we have TSN and RDS with different language but owned by CTV. --Aleenf1 13:54, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Al Jazeera Sports

The UEFA Euro 2012 will broadcast on Al Jazeera Sports and not Al Jazeera, as they are two different channels and companies. And even on the UEFA website they state that Al Jazeera Sports won the rights to the UEFA Euro 2012. A.h. king • Talk to me! 09:28, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Rights awarded to Al Jazeera Sports and not Al Jazeera, no bias whether it is channel or broadcaster but source must be respect.--Aleenf1 14:30, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

STV and UTV issue.

STV and UTV are the ITV licensees for Scotland and Northern Ireland. You can confirm that in the three linked articles. As such, there should no separation of any Home Nations from the UK section, since STV and UTV are actual British broadcasters. JDamanWP (talk) 16:42, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Oh yeah, you always said other people wrong and you are always correct, that is your attitude of "know-it-all" on your userpage and you hate it. Think about yourself first. Actually, if i can access STV and UTV in England without any decoder device, then i can accept your comment, but since both categorise as TV in Scotland and Northern Ireland, then will be a bit head for way wrong. Sincerely, UK is not a member of UEFA also since you vanish off Eurosport off the table. Well, you are "know-it-all" too. --Aleenf1 23:17, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Then what we have to politely do, is dividing the UK section into the different Home Nations, creating a section for England, another for Scotland, other for NI and other for Wales. ;) BBC will be present in all of them, together with the appointed regional ITV licensee. Do you appreciate this idea? :) JDamanWP (talk) 23:47, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

I appreciate your idea, but i would like bring BBC back to UK section EVEN UK is not a UEFA member, why not we have exemption for one thing to bring at least no confusion to all? --Aleenf1 11:36, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

To bring back BBC to a UK section, we will have to erase BBC from the "England" section, in order to avoid confusion. In my opinion, of course. JDamanWP (talk) 12:29, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

I must say that the situation we currently have is just absurd, it looks like there are five unrelated countries/territories: UK, England, Scotland, Wales and NI, and the BBC has rights in just one of them - "United Kingdom". I'm pretty sure that the respective networks of VRT and RTBF are not easily available in respectively Wallonia and Flanders. No network whatsoever owned by TV4 Group will show you any match in Denmark, with or without any decoder device. Stadscykel (talk) 16:16, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Removal of details

I question this edit because I believe that the information on how the rights holders actually use their rights is perfectly legitimate in the article. For example, what "Israel - Charlton Ltd." or "Spain - Mediaset España" can mean for a user not acquainted with the broadcasts in respective countries? The full list of broadcasters and their actual channels, as well as availability of HD broadcasts, is far more useful and relevant information than the plain list of acronyms which can be easily obtained from the UEFA website. Stadscykel (talk) 15:53, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Otherwise there is no need to mention TSN and RDS separately since the rights holder's name is CTV Specialty Television, and neither STV nor UTV since it is ITV (a company, not a TV channel) which has the rights for the whole of the United Kingdom independent of what the networks are called in Scotland or Northern Ireland. And reversal of the corrections like changing "TRK" to actual "Ukrayina" is plain destructive. Stadscykel (talk) 16:06, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, we are talking about rights, not TV Guide, and what UEFA granted and of course, some of none UEFA reference also in place. That is what WP:NOT about. Channel is a bit original research as rights holder are free to choose the broadcasting channel. Also, we are not guide people to watch SD or HD. If you have any correction on link mistake, please be bold. --Aleenf1 16:30, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

All right, I fixed the table in accordance with what you said. But I still believe that the actual networks' names are relevant, the last time I saw a TV guide it did not contain any information about the language nor SD/HD broadcasts, it contained a lot of other information though. Otherwise, if it is forbidden to name the TV networks because it becomes the TV guide the articles about the broadcasters can be called "TV guide" as well. For example, TV4 Group would be a perfect TV guide. Stadscykel (talk) 16:59, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

I think you misunderstanding, UEFA granted the rights to such broadcasters, and no alter from original source. It is not company, but from source we found. --Aleenf1 17:02, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Well, I can explain every change I made. There's no broadcaster called TSN so there's no possibility of it holding the rights. There's no source on the STV's rights to broadcast the tournament in Scotland. There's no source which confirms that ITV does not have the broadcasting rights in Scotland or Northern Ireland. There's nothing called "Globo TV". (UEFA believes there is) The UEFA never granted the rights to VRT to broadcast in Dutch, as the rights holders are free to choose the language. Who knows if VRT or RTBF would like to broadcast the final not in Dutch or French, but in German. Or English. Stadscykel (talk) 17:13, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't think your explain make sense as all the list taken from source, what kind makes you think like that, i dunno and i don't want to know but please respect the source. --Aleenf1 17:19, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Again, there is no source which confirms that some of the broadcasters do not have the rights to broadcast in languages other than it stands in the article. No source confirms separate broadcasting rights for Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. The source mentions "Globo TV", not Rede Globo neither Globosat. Stadscykel (talk) 17:34, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

At least you only half right, and you done a blind edit, please check reference back! --Aleenf1 03:14, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I see your latest edit, that seems about right. Especially since ITV3 is available everywhere in the UK. Stadscykel (talk) 08:32, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

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