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Steven Short

Is the Steven Short linked the correct one? The link goes to a retired ice hockey player? Thanks Red Jay (talk) 16:31, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Good question, seems unlikely and I can't find a good source saying they're the same person. I'll disambiguate it. Jay eyem (talk) 21:21, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Article Name

Wouldn't this article be better titled D3 - United Soccer League - as that is the name used by United Soccer Leagues in describing the league - this name seems more like a placeholder than the actual name.

I reverted your page move because it is less appropriate then the previous name. USL consistently refers to the league as "USL Division III" on it's own website and external sources tend to use that as well or USL D3 as a short form. BLAIXX 20:35, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tormenta FC - Both PDL & USL D3 Teams

As South Georgia Tormenta FC has recently announced a new head coach for their PDL-side for the 2019 season, it appears the team will have both a USL D3 & a PDL squad. Currently, it is marked on the timeline that they are moving up from PDL to USL D3. Would that still be correct or should we remove their PDL reference from the timeline? Reference article: https://www.tormentafc.com/page/show/2300356-news-articles NorthOnt001 (talk) 15:56, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@NorthOnt001: Hmm, this is frustratingly confusing the way they've not really clarified anything. My best guess would be that the D3 team will be known as "Tormenta FC" and the PDL team will be called something like "Tormenta FC U23". I don't think we're gonna get much clarity on what's happening until we get closer (though I tried asking via Twitter; maybe we'll get lucky and they'll answer). For now, I think leaving the timeline as-is is probably the best choice, since it seems likely that they'll consider the D3 team their "main" team. --IagoQnsi (talk) 19:19, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Update: Looks like they don't know either. But I still think it's most likely that the PDL team will sort of be a new secondary team, with the primary team moving from PDL to D3. --IagoQnsi (talk) 21:19, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Stadium Notes

Both Tormenta and Chattanooga Red Wolves are working on soccer-specific stadiums, and both Lansing and USL Omaha play/will play in baseball parks. Can we add footnotes like for the MLS and USL Championship pages denoting whether stadiums are shared or soccer-specific or otherwise? —Lanway (talk) 21:11, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Penn FC

Until we have confirmation that Penn FC is indeed playing in 2020, can we move them back to the Future Teams section with Rochester? —Lanway (talk) 19:18, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Rochester Rhinos

Why are the Rochester Rhinos missing from the future clubs list? SportsFan007 (talk) 09:16, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To IP editor: from a recent report "The plan is for the team to be rebranded and relocated at a different venue in Rochester in time for the start of the 2022 season, with discussions ongoing as to what league they will choose to enter."^[1] With this much uncertainty, I think we should wait and see what the club decides. BLAIXX 03:43, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ James, Stuart (15 June 2021). "Jamie Vardy becomes co-owner of US club Rochester Rhinos". The Athletic. Retrieved 23 June 2021.

New Player articles standards

Figure this is a good place to put this since it probably has a lot of page watchers. For those unaware, there was a recent RfC which basically came to the conclusion that simply playing a pro match (in any league) is not enough for an article anymore. That is, articles which are basically sourced only to stats pages/game reports/etc are not enough and meeting WP:FPL is no longer a thing. They should meet GNG and have a couple references of significant coverage beyond routine mentions per Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Sports_notability#To_those_upset_with_sports_coverage_on_Wikipedia. There are a couple discussions in the recent archive at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football about it too. Basically an article would need more than citations to league match reports/soccerway/etc. Basically, it's okay to create an article after one appearance, but it just requires a higher quality of sourcing now to prove it meets notability guidelines. RedPatch (talk) 13:17, 18 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Westchester Future Club

Hi @Yoshiegg25 - I see you commented out the inclusion of the new Westchester, New York club, and stated that the reason was that the USL had not announced the new club yet. However, the new club was announced in a reputable daily newspaper and a reference citation was provided. Perhaps a notation could be added saying that news of this new club isn't official, but I don't think the article's list of future clubs should be limited to whatever information USL's head office wants to release. Coining (talk) 18:11, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Coining Over the years, there have been multiple instances of local news announcing teams in USL that have gone nowhere, or have ended up in other leagues (such as MLS NEXT Pro). USL League One hasn't officially announced in cities such as Corpus Christi or Wilmington, though there is far more talk from USL, local news, and the clubs themselves about those cities' pushes towards USL1, but we aren't discussing them being included.

My opinion is that only teams officially announced by USL should be included, and that has been how this page has operated since the league began (which has included far more people than myself). Teams won't be participating if the league doesn't announce them. If Westchester is supposedly starting a team in the league next year, I suspect that they'll be announced officially within the next three months (the article, in fact, mentions this is "expected within weeks"). In that case, I would (obviously) have no issue including them. No disrespect to the local outlet that reported it, but I'm concerned that the reporter was told that USL1 was a likely landing place, but there's still the possibility that the team ends up in NEXT Pro (either as an independent team or as a second team for NYCFC or NY Red Bulls), or that any agreement they're working on with the league, stadium owners, etc. falls apart.

TL;DR I think waiting for an official announcement is more prudent, which, if the article is accurate, should be happening soon anyways. Yoshiegg25 18:37, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoshiegg25 Thank you for the quick reply. I wasn't aware of the history here, so I agree that it is prudent to wait a few weeks. Coining (talk) 18:42, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Coining It took all of one hour for this entire conversation to be rendered pointless https://www.uslleagueone.com/news_article/show/1309517 Yoshiegg25 19:50, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoshiegg25 Ha! Coining (talk) 20:22, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] James, Stuart (15 June 2021). "Jamie Vardy becomes co-owner of US club Rochester Rhinos". The Athletic. Retrieved 23 June 2021.

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