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Is Vladivostok really a "new" city?

This article treats the city as if it is new, but according to multiple sources, it is actually very old, settled by the Chinese in 600 AD. I understand from the perspective of Russian textbooks, the first settlers arrived there in the 19th century, the same place which was known as Yongmingcheng "city of eternal light" in the 1200s. If a new name city is in the same place as an old city, is it a new city? Chersonesus was established at Sevastopol prior to the arrival of Russians, so did the Russians establish Sevastopol or did the greeks? I can see that if the place was not under continual human habitation you could fairly say it was a new city, but come on. It is a harbor in china and there isn't a village still there in 1856? This strains credulity. Anyway, I have edited the second paragraph, but there is something amiss here. J JMesserly (talk) 22:13, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Which sources treat them as the same settlement? To the point that we can say that Vladivostok was founded in 600 AD. Mellk (talk) 01:29, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is a bit late, but are these sources reliable? From what I understand, Vladivostok nor much of the region were not under Chinese control during this era. In fact the first time China even reached this far was likely in the later 600s during the Tang Dynasty's Protectorate to Pacify the East, but that too likely didn't last long. Sunnyediting99 (talk) 01:58, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bumping this Sunnyediting99 (talk) 01:54, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, what gives reason to believe that Vladivostok is located in that exact place? Wehrwulf (talk) 10:32, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Russia allowing China to use Vladivostok as a port for the first time

Beginning June 1 2023 China will be able to use Vladivostok as a port: https://www.stripes.com/theaters/europe/2023-05-17/russia-china-shipping-vladivostok-pacific-10143191.html#:~:text=The%20Russian%20port%20of%20Vladivostok%20opens%20to%20China,Administrations%20of%20Customs%20China%2C%20the%20nation%E2%80%99s%20customs%20ministry.

Maybe someone can add it to the Vladivostok article? Dionyseus (talk) 00:46, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]