Talk:Wait (Beatles song)
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Written by?
[edit]I know Paul, in Miles' 'Many Years From Now' states that he doesn't remember John contributing to the writing of this song at all, although it is stated that he did in other sources(like in 'Revolution In The Head'). So far I haven't seen John ever commenting on this song, so what exactly is this co-credit based on?
Any ideas?192.153.194.200 15:06, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- The article may be guilty of overstating the case for a strong collaboration. Paul claims the song or at least doesn't remember if John helped or not. Alan W. Pollack says there is a strong Lennon influence. As you noted, Ian MacDonald says it was a collaboration, but we don't know much about what led him to that conclusion. There is also the song itself, with verses dominated by John's voice and the bridge dominated by Paul's voice. Neither Lennon Remembers or All We Are Saying includes anything from John about the song. Perhaps the article should be edited to reflect more uncertainty about who wrote what. — John Cardinal 21:15, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- Collaboration is impossible to untangle after the event. Ideas bounce back and forward, are modified and added and subtracted, both parties concentrating on evolving this nameless shapeless thing that is becoming a song.
- The only 50-50 Fab song I can name is ‘We Can Work It Out.’ Macca had some verses for a new song, but no chorus. Lennon had a new song with just a chorus, in the minor key to Macca’s song, but no verses. They stuck these together. Result, one classic hit. --2001:44B8:3102:BB00:84F3:42F7:7084:8BFF (talk) 07:21, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
Then there's the point of the song 'Every Little Thing' off the 'Beatles For Sale'-album; which is sung mainly by John, written in the style of John, but clearly written by Paul, as both of them attribute it to him. So, had David Sheff, who conducted the Playboy interview, forgotten to ask John about 'Every Little Thing'(like he did with 'Wait'), it would also have been 'given' to John by default, no matter what statement Paul makes in retrospect? Just because he is the singer and the style is much more his than Pauls? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.153.194.200 (talk) 12:32, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- Each song is a different case, and the important thing is to present the evidence, with citations, so that the reader can draw the conclusions, not the editors. In the lead sentence or paragraph the editors may choose to summarize, but that summary must be supported by the evidence presented later. Any summary will leave out details and there's a chance the summary will be misleading. If so, we try to improve it. That's what I thought we were trying to do here... — John Cardinal 17:33, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
I have recently obtained a copy of the magazine Hit Parader(April 1972), where John went through all of their songs and put them into three categories:
1. Songs he'd written himself(or at least songs he clearly was the main writer of).
2. Songs that Paul had written on his own.
3. Songs he and Paul had written together.
(Well, he didn't really use the numbers 1,2 and 3; this is just me...)
In the interview he talked about quite a few of their songs(about 50), but 'Wait' didn't receive that kind of attention. But luckily it received SOME attention this time around(which in 1980, it didn't.), because John DID put 'Wait' into the pile of songs he and McCartney had written TOGETHER.
So there you are.
On a side note... On this occasion, John also put 'Every Little Thing', 'What You're Doing' and 'I've Got a Feeling' into the McCartney AND Lennon category; songs he eight years later would attribute directly to McCartney.(Although, he did say that he MIGHT have done something on the first two.)
--84.208.224.234 (talk) 16:53, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
A song medley for LOVE
[edit]They should have combined this song with "I'll Be Back" for LOVE. C.Syde (talk | contribs) 23:57, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
Jane Asher
[edit]Can’t agree that this number is addressed to Jane. Several of the Beatles’ earliest works were on the theme of ‘longing and separation’, doubtless due to their heavy touring schedule. ‘PS, I Love You’, ‘It Won’t Be Long’ and ‘All My Loving’ spring to mind, and one might add ‘When I Get Home’ and even ‘A Hard Day’s Night’.
McCartney says somewhere that ‘I’m Looking Through You’ was the first song he wrote directly arising from his personal life. It expresses the unease he was feeling, the sense that Jane Asher was slipping away from him: ‘I thought I knew you, what did I know?’
--2001:44B8:3102:BB00:84F3:42F7:7084:8BFF (talk) 07:10, 12 August 2021 (UTC)