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The previous concern is valid. White privilege is theoretical and should be portrayed as such. This exact article is why I don't use Wikipedia anymore. 142.177.42.150 (talk) 14:30, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
So provide some RS that challenge it. Slatersteven (talk) 14:55, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"RS" all push the idea of White privilege. Any source pushing back against it will just be discredited as "extremist".
There isn't a section for criticism of the concept of white privilege. I don't see this in the article history. Am I opening a can of worms by starting a section? If I don't hear back soon, I'll give it a try. Feel free to post feedback here.
One thing I think is worth noting is research from Plos one titled, "How the term “white privilege” affects participation, polarization, and content in online communication." The conclusion is "Overall, mention of white privilege seems to create internet discussions that are less constructive, more polarized, and less supportive of racially progressive policies."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9067660/
In most cases separate sections devoted to criticism, controversies, or the like should be avoided in an article because these sections call undue attention to negative viewpoints. Articles should present the prevailing viewpoints from reliable sources, whether positive or negative. Segregation of text or other content into different subsections, based solely on the apparent POV of the content itself, may result in an unencyclopedic structure, such as a back-and-forth dialogue between proponents and opponents.
With regard to that one study, I'm neutral on inclusion. Generally we prefer to rely upon WP:SECONDARY sources wherever possible, rather than WP:PRIMARY studies, particularly ones in pay-to-publish journals like PLoS One. Generalrelative (talk) 19:39, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As Generalrelative points out, Criticism sections are a holdout from Wikipedia's cowboy days, where we didn't have as many guidelines. They've fallen out of favor, and any articles that still have them need to be edited for compliance with modern standards. It's just not people's highest priority to go looking for them on a volunteer project. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 19:55, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
White privilege is opinion and not a proven fact[edit]
It should be noted throughout the article that white privilege is a theory or the opinion of some and not a proven fact. Yes there are countless editorials and opinions about the topic, but very little factual data. For wikipedia to remain true to its mission it shouldn't be pushing one groups ideology. 146.168.64.10 (talk) 11:21, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article is well sourced referencing multiple studies. I see no editorials in the cites. You have provided no contrary studies. O3000, Ret. (talk) 11:49, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We are not here to answer questions about the article topic, per WP:FORUM. This is not a place for either homework answers, or debate. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 12:27, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
At what specific skin tone does it kick in? Or is the privilege graded, with say, an Italian enjoying less of it than an Irishman? Does a black albino person enjoy white privilege?
Perhaps the article could seek to answer these questions. As an "olive" type with mixed ancestry I'm not quite sure where I stand. Thanks. Gene Stanley1 (talk) 14:08, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have any RS that discuss this issue? Slatersteven (talk) 14:13, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
When I was young, in a city where blacks were not allowed in white public schools, the public swimming pool, or on our side of the tracks after sundown; our black maid's skin looked white but was badly scared. This was due to her efforts to bleach her skin white to lift herself out of the situation blacks were forced to endure. O3000, Ret. (talk) 14:31, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not here to dispute the historical mistreatment of black folks. I was hoping that, here in 2024, I might find answers regarding my level of privilege. As someone who may or may not be "of color". Gene Stanley1 (talk) 00:15, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, much as my response sounded forumy; this is not a forum and that specific a question is not possible to answer anywhere. If you have a suggestion about an addition; you are welcome to provide reliable sources for that addition. O3000, Ret. (talk) 00:24, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
