Talk:William Morgan (actuary)

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British or Welsh?[edit]

@Scootertop: I want to challenge your reverts of the description of Morgan from Welsh to British:

rvt POV edits by blocked editor[1]
Rvt undiscussed edits to last clean version[2]

As I said in an edit summary, an editor being blocked is not sufficient reason to revert their edits. Also, it is not clear that Llywelyn2000's original edits were point-of-view edits. Your second edit summary suggests that edits should be discussed before they are made – this is not how Wikipedia works, you should give a valid reason when reverting.

The description as 'Welsh' was sourced to the Dictionary of Welsh Biography.[3] While this does not explicitly say he was Welsh, is gives several reasons why we should describe him as Welsh:

He was born in Wales
His family home was in Wales
His mother was a Welsh speaker, and he probably spoke Welsh as a boy
He wrote in his diary that he had a 'Welsh temper'
One of the sources cited in the Dictionary of Welsh Biography article is the 1885 book A Welsh family from the beginning of the 18th century edited by Caroline E. Williams. This book appears to be about William Morgan's family (I have only glanced at a few pages), and its title indicates that they were considered to be Welsh.

Please clarify why he should not be described as Welsh. Verbcatcher (talk) 22:28, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, you don't need to give a valid reason when reverting - all articles about persons are protected and the policy specifically states that unsourced and unsubstantiated insertions "may be removed". The policy states that we must have specific sources for why a person should be stated to be some restricted nationality other than that of citizenship and general opinions are of interest but that's not the same as evidence.--Scootertop (talk) 08:16, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]