Talk:Wraxall, Somerset

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Merger[edit]

Merge Wraxall_and_Failand into Wraxall as Wraxall_and_Failand is a parish which is a subset of the physical village

Frapps (talk) 22:35, 13 April 2011 (UTC) Frapps

Oppose - it is common to have separate articles for civil parishes where the parish may contain two separate settlements. An example is Burnham-on-Sea and Highbridge, which is an article about the civil parish which contains the separate settlements of Highbridge and Burnham-on-Sea. --Simple Bob a.k.a. The Spaminator (Talk) 06:56, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

[edit conflict] This could be problematic as it could be argued that the village is part of the parish, which is geographically larger & has a bigger population than the village. Also what would happen about the article Failand. If you do still want to propose a merger it would be helpful to look at Wikipedia:Merging and following the instructions at Help:Merging, which would then invite others to comment.— Rod talk 07:01, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Oppose Articles concerned with the mediaeval history of Wraxall need to link to an article about Wraxall alone, as a historically separate entity. (Lobsterthermidor (talk) 15:21, 24 April 2011 (UTC))

In the light of 3 oppose messages and no arguments in favour I have removed the merge banner. Further discussion is of course welcome.— Rod talk 09:43, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Renaming the page?[edit]

Is it possible to rename the page to Wraxall, North Somerset? Around the area it is known as 'Wraxall, North Somerset' or 'Wraxall, Bristol' to distingusih the village from the Wraxall near Shepton Mallet, or Chewton Mendip. The Shepton Mallet one has always remained in Somerset while this village was unfortnuately 'moved' into Avon. Frapps (talk) 19:46, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Neither of the other places you mention have articles so there is no need for further disambiguation at the current time. If they were to get articles then there might be a need. According to WP:UKGEO wikipedia uses Ceremonial counties of England (placing N. Som & BANES within Somerset). There has been some discussion about whether this is still appropriate as more Unitary Authorities have been created over the years, but as far as I'm aware no changes in guidelines have been made. Wraxall, North Somerset might be an option if it were needed but Wraxall, Bristol definately shouldn't as (to to the best of my knowledge) Wraxall has never been part of Bristol.— Rod talk 07:46, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Climate data?[edit]

What is the source of the climate data on this page? Has it just been invented? Martinevans123 (talk) 10:17, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

no it hasnt just click on the link at the end of the summary, i dont know how to add a source to a weather box http://www.wraxall-weather.co.uk/wxtempsummary.php --90.202.1.5 (talk) 10:30, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
Following the format at Template:Yeovilton weatherbox I have added that link.— Rod talk 10:43, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:30, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Someone keeps reverting my edits, below is two texts, the first one is the one they revert to, and the second is mine

− Wraxall has a Temperate Maritime Climate. Temperatures are usually between 1.9 °C (35.4 °F) and 22.5 °C (72.5 °F), but the all-time temperature range is between −10.3 °C (13.5 °F) and 31.3 °C (88.3 °F). Between 2010 and 2014 Wraxall averaged about 880 hours of bright sunshine per year.[1] Between the winters of 2009-10 and 2014-15 Wraxall received an average of 9.8cm of snow per year.[2] + Wraxall has a Temperate Maritime Climate. Temperatures are usually between 1.9 °C (35.4 °F) and 22.5 °C (72.5 °F), but the all-time temperature range is between −10.3 °C (13.5 °F) and 31.3 °C (88.3 °F). Between 2010 and 2014 Wraxall averaged about 880 hours of bright sunshine per year. Between 2010 and 2014, December averaged under an hour of bright sunshine daily and July averaged just over four hours. Between 2010 and 2014 Wraxall received an average of 9.8 cm of snow per year.[3] Between 2010 and 2014, April was almost as sunny as July - there was an unusual decrease in sunshine from April to June, which then increased in July.[4]--2.216.8.27 (talk) 20:41, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

You may wish to note the edit summary in this edit, which you reverted at 18.21 on 22 June 2015. Please also be aware of WP:3RR, which says: "An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page—whether involving the same or different material—within a 24-hour period. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:57, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
I do not believe that the data, which are provided only for the years "2009-present", allow is to make any generalisations about what happens "usually" or about "all-time temperature range".
Do you really think it is useful to describe the relative amounts of bright sunshine and snow, between different months, when averaging over only five years? I would suggest that simply leaving the table of raw data to speak for itself is clearer. I don't see why the years 2010-2014 should be seen as particularly significant in terms of climate for this part of the world. If you have a source that suggests otherwise I'd be keen to see it.
And I would be pleased if you didn't refer to my edits, in your own edit summaries, as "vandalism". Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:34, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
'Wraxall Weather' and its sub pages does not appear to be a reliable source. It seems to be a self-published page. SovalValtos (talk) 21:54, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
I agree with SovalValtos that there is no indication that 'Wraxall Weather' can be regarded as a reliable source, and anyway its usefulness is seriously restricted by the short period that it covers. It cannot be used to make any kind of generalisations about the climate in Wraxall. The statement about "unusual" decreases in sunshine between April and June is an example of the kind of meaningless information that results from a small sample size. In my view it all should be removed, and I would have done so before were it not for the unwarranted hostility that this editor previously displayed when I removed climate data that they added to Chideock. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 23:12, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
I do not think that a village should have a weather box referenced to a weather station outside the settlement area concerned, rather weather boxes should only be used if the weather station is inside the area covered by the article. Hence countries and regions could justifiably have one, but not villages nor many towns. SovalValtos (talk) 09:19, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
I agree. Perhaps village articles like this could provide a link to the nearest appropriate regional weather data? Martinevans123 (talk) 09:23, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
I have now removed that section which was added (by an anon ip editor, registered to Sky UK in Oxford) on 19 June. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:02, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Sun Hours Summary Chart". Wraxall Weather. Retrieved 2015-06-21. 
  2. ^ "Yearly Snowfall Summary (cm)". Wraxall Weather. Retrieved 21 June 2015. 
  3. ^ "Yearly Snowfall Summary (cm)". Wraxall Weather. Retrieved 21 June 2015. 
  4. ^ "Sun Hours Summary Chart". Wraxall Weather. Retrieved 2015-06-21.