Talk:Yakovlev Yak-38

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Development sequence 36 - 38 - 41[edit]

Yak-41 is quite different aircraft (as compared to 36/38 and Harrier), but

  1. it continues the development line of 36/38 Yaks
  2. it fits just the same niche as all the others naval VTOLs

Hence, I'd preserve 36-38-41 line in all the refs. --jno 09:40, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Russian name?[edit]

There is an unofficial russian name for 36/38: "Russian: Военно-морской огурец" ("naval cucumber"). Do we need to list it on the page(s)? --jno 09:43, 30 March 2006 (UTC)


The Yak-38 is not contemporary to or anaologous to the Harrier II. It is equivilant to the original Harrier. The AV-8B is a more recent and much more capable machine. - Aerobird 00:44, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

agree! --jno 07:36, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
agree. Twobells (talk) 13:08, 14 April 2012 (UTC)


Considering that this aircraft's only highlight is it's VTOL capability, wouldn't one assume it's thrust to weight ratio exceeded 1?

Rolling Takeoff[edit]

I'm reasonably certain that I've read an article by Bill Gunston that stated that the Yak 38 was in fact capable of a loaded rolling take off. Also the same article suggested that although the Forger had multi-role capability, it's primary role was local air defense for the fleet. Anyone able to verify either of these facts? 12:55, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Your right it was, I have delected that part from the article, I hope that ok. check this video here If watch a part 00.19 you see the Yak 38 performing a rolling take off. and on this page they state the yak 38 "with possible stores including external tanks; dumb bombs; unguided rocket pods; cannon pod; A-60 (AA-8 Aphid) heat-seeking air-to-air missiles (AAMs); and Kh-23 (AS-10 Karen) guided air-to-surface missiles (ASMs), which demanded carriage of a guidance pod on one of the pylons." so I'm assuming it was multirole. I hope that helps.

also I'm not sure if the Kiev Class is comparable to a Super Carrier like the Nimitz.


Hmm. I'd thought that Forger didn't do STOVL...interesting. As for the Kievs, they are in no way shape or form comparable to a Nimitz. In their original configuration, as hybrid carrier-cruisers, the closest Western comparision would be the RN's Invincibles, or perhaps one of the USN's Tarawa-class ships (if you stretch things a bit). The modifications to Gorshkov for India put it in the league of CVF or, perhaps, an modern version of an Essex-class carrier (way to small to compare to even a Midway).
Oh dear...MiG-29s on an Essex...must stop brainstorm now....
- Aerobird 15:15, 5 January 2007 (UTC) also says that the yak-38 pilots prefer short rolling takeoffs and landings. 07:50, 7 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Happy01000101 (talkcontribs)

Ukrainian Air Force?[edit]

Was the yak-38 really in the Ukrainian air force? How do we know this?

Yes, I've got these pictures of Yak-38s with Ukrainian markings, I can't remember where I saw them but I saved them, and uploaded them to photobucket, here have a look.

- Yak-38M, 22 March 2007

Film appearance[edit]

Sorry Bill, but I think it's necessairy to keep a mention of the use of Yak-38 in the film RED DAWN. Not only is this the only appearance of a Yak-38 in a major motion picture, but the use of Yak-38 for securing an inland location deprived of a local airstrip is noteworthy, and tactically interesting. The film makers get a nod for unconventional thinking, and the aircraft's appearance is well worth mentioning here. - Ken keisel (talk) 00:36, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

thrust-flow to the forward nozzels??[edit]

could somebody please explain and/or illustrate how the hot thrust flow from the rear of the turbine gets to the vertical exhaust-nozzels in front of the turbine? thank you! --HilmarHansWerner (talk) 11:02, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

It doesn't, the 'vertical exhaust nozzels' are small turbojet engines that take air in at the top of the aircraft, and exhaust it at the bottom. To compare, the F-35 uses the same principle, but uses a liftfan instead of two small jet engines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:50, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
thanx! ;-) --HilmarHansWerner (talk) 21:49, 12 February 2013 (UTC)