Talk:Yanny or Laurel

This article was nominated for deletion on 17 May 2018. The result of the discussion was keep.

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Recentism?

Is this really an encyclopedic subject or just a passing fad? I don’t have a strong opinion either way, I'm just a little surprised by the rapid appearance of this article. JezGrove (talk) 22:37, 16 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The dress which is very similar got an article pretty fast too. this fad has a lot of media attention too so I think that makes it relevant enough to stay. -glove- (talk) 22:39, 16 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If this is where votes are being cast for delete vs. keep, I vote keep. Like The dress this meme has been very widespread, and it's good to have an encyclopedic entry for it here on WP. Girona7 (talk) 14:11, 17 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I also vote to keep the article; other short-lived, popular crazes such as Dancing mania are allowed their own articles. If millions of people are affected by a passing fad, does that not give it relevance? Or is it just long-lasting historical significance that determines relevance? jamgoodman (talk) 15:36, 17 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@JezGrove, -glove-, and Girona7: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Yanny_or_Laurel -- Fuzheado | Talk 20:02, 17 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am voting for this article to be kept. This article can continue to develop as a stub, however it is just like The dress which is another internet phenomenon. --Atomicdragon136 (talk) 22:02, 17 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

To vote on whether to keep the article or not, go to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yanny or Laurel JezGrove (talk) 22:12, 17 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Strong keep; This is just as notable as The dress— Supuhstar * — 02:58, 18 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Supuhstar: Feel free to vote on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yanny or Laurel to provide input into the !vote. Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 05:22, 18 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lets do Brainstorm or Green Needle :-) --Lomogorov (talk) 13:18, 18 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This one might merit a (short) mention in this article, as a phenomenon of the same type. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 03:45, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Strong keep, but there should be a link to the original rather than or in addition to a conversion to ogg.CountMacula (talk) 02:53, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Conversion to ogg may be low fidelity

I am informed by an acquaintance that they hear 'laurel' from the https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/laurel original, whereas they hear 'yanny' from the ogg file presently linked by article, namely: File:YannyLaurel.ogg I don't see much if any information about the provenance of the ogg file. Certainly the files shouldn't be assumed to be equivalent, and the ogg file should be removed, or the article ought to have some remark about this issue.CountMacula (talk) 03:05, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@CountMacula: I got the sound file from Cloe Feldman's twitter post. I chose this particular sound file, and not the "Laurel" definition, because the low quality nature of the soundclip enhances the illusion, as seen in Brad Story's explanation within the CNN article. Yoshiman6464 ^♫🥚 03:58, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoshiman6464: I believe the main goal of Wikipedia is to inform, not to enhance any illusion. Please edit the article to clearly reflect that the linked file is not the original file.CountMacula (talk) 14:20, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@CountMacula: I added a description to the audio file, and included a citation. Yoshiman6464 ^♫🥚 15:15, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The original was recorded in 2007 with professional gear and a trained operatic voice, so sounds like what Jones said. The 2009 Szabo bootleg was ripped from computer speakers through library silence into a consumer-grade mic an unknown distance away, and there captured the ghost of "Yanny" that Feldman turned into a 2018 global phenomenon. If you're hearing the phantom word in the unenchanted and non-notable cut, you're either exceptionally tuned for it or your recent expectations tell your brain to hear again what it heard repeated on Twitter before. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.60.228.70 (talk) 23:30, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK deadline

If someone wants to nominate this at Did You Know, it should probably be done by tomorrow, and in my opinion, there is plenty of interesting facts in this article. wumbolo ^^^ 18:20, 22 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oh nevermind, there is no freely licensed version available, so dang it! wumbolo ^^^ 10:32, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Inconsistency

There is a pitched up version to hear Laurel, but no pitched down version to hear Yanny. 2A01:119F:21D:7900:9189:EFB9:B107:6723 (talk) 14:29, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. There needs to be a pitched down version as well 344917661X (talk) 12:24, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I still hear "Yanny" in the pitched up version though, so it may be worth considering pitching it up higher. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.118.227.203 (talk) 01:30, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Both Words

The article doesn't mention that many people can 'choose' which word to hear or even hear both simultaneously. 80.7.168.14 (talk) 12:14, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Do any sources exist which suggest that this is possible? --Belbury (talk) 12:33, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Yanny\ or\ Laurel" listed at Redirects for discussion

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"Yanny\ or\ Laurel" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Yanny\ or\ Laurel has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 February 14 § Yanny\ or\ Laurel until a consensus is reached. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 02:06, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]