Talk:Yogendra Singh Yadav

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A fact from Yogendra Singh Yadav appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 21 August 2006. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Yogendra Singh Yadav of the Indian army was awarded India's highest military honour posthumously in error, until it was realized that he was still alive recovering from injuries from the Kargil War?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2006/August.

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bharat-rakshak.com - a spam?

bharat-rakshak.com - seems to be a spammer's website and is being found in all articles. Ban the website —Preceding unsigned comment added by BrownyCat (talk • contribs) 23:07, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Description of his acts

The description of his actions is rather unfit for Wikipedia; it's copied almost verbatim from the source, which lends it a tone that is not as objective as Wikipedia's should be. There are too many non-neutral adjectives in the description and I've already removed some of the more egregious ones, but it can still be improved. Also, the source is not the greatest example of English grammar. Blckmgc (talk) 03:22, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Adressing Sections Above

I believe the article is in much better shape at this time.Myopia123 (talk) 16:17, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yadav Saab's Portrait DOES have context

So a user, Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk), has been removing Yadav Saab's portrait on the grounds that it has no significance. I disagree. He is a war hero and it is very common practice on Wikipedia to include a single image in the infobox of the recipient of a nations highest gallantry award. Please seek consensus before taking such unilateral action with unfounded statements in future.Myopia123 (talk) 21:34, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It is also the official portrait that accompanies the citation on the Indian Army's official website. All other images would be news/tabloid and therefore, not as reliable as the one that is in use right now. It is absolutely 100% relevant the scope of its (limited) use absolutely justifies having it here.Myopia123 (talk) 21:37, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Also according to India's Right to Information Act allows all Indian civilians access to works published by the Indian government and can be used under the fair use criteria. This matter has already been discussed in Commons where it was agreed that this would be the best course of action.Myopia123 (talk) 21:39, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Also, this is an article so notable that it has been mentioned on Wikipedia's main page. Therefore, any unilateral edits of such magnitude must be done VERY carefully. Please discuss this in detail before making any edits regarding this issue.Myopia123 (talk) 21:46, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Per Wikipedia:NFC#UULP#1, nonfree/"fair use" "Pictures of people still alive" may not be displayed in en-wiki articles. In addition, since this is a portrait rather than a photograph, it is possible for an adequately skilled person to create an equivalent portrait, so that the image is likely replaceable under WP:NFCC#1. If you do not agree, please take the discussion to WP:NFCR, where editors with experience in our image policy are likely to comment, rather than reverting again. I do a great deal of work with nonfree images, and I don't recall any instance where my removal of such an image from a BLP infobox has been overturned. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 22:01, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Pictures of people still alive, groups still active, and buildings still standing; provided that taking a new free picture as a replacement (which is almost always considered possible) would serve the same encyclopedic purpose as the non-free image. I have scoured the internet high and low for a free image. None has been found yet. Therefore, this was the most appropriate course of action.Myopia123 (talk) 22:17, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk): Extreme disrespect has been shown to an Indian war hero. Shame on you.Myopia123 (talk) 22:45, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Since there is no free image available, this picture will stay for now. The second I find a free one, I will be the first to switch it.Myopia123 (talk) 22:19, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Also, what you can and cannot recall is irrelevant. If you are expecting me to find where he is stationed in India(which could be anywhere from Kashmir to a UN Peacekeeping mission) and go and ask him for his picture, then you are asking for too much.Myopia123 (talk) 22:25, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, one could be so bold as to conclude that such difficulties are exactly why his picture is provided on the Indian Army's website...Myopia123 (talk) 22:27, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is his official Citation Portrait, much like a US President's white house portrait. It is not acceptable to replace it with anyone elses.Myopia123 (talk) 22:30, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

- That is simply inconsistent with both en-wiki image use policy and the WMF's resolution governing the use of nonfree content. It simply doesn't matter if a free image is currently available, so long as one "could be created". Whether you yourself can create one readily is thoroughly irrelevant. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 22:33, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia also has a history of being practical in these matters. At the end of the day, no US laws are being broken. As an Indian Citizen, I have the right to use this image as fair use criteria and this image is not easily replacable as, at this time, any replacement would be from a non-reliable source.Myopia123 (talk) 22:41, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

-Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk): Extreme disrespect has been shown to an Indian war hero. Shame on you.Myopia123 (talk) 22:46, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please take the discussion to WP:MCQ or [[WP:NFCR. If you restore the image again, I will file a 3RR violation notice. You run the risk of having your editing privileges suspended. The Big Bad Wolfowitz (aka Hullaballoo) (talk) 22:51, 4 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Will any one please have a look on the wiki pages pertaining to PVC awardees or other military personalities. Let me give one such example of the page of another PVC honoured Sub. Sanjay Kumar, this pages too have picture from the same source. The page belongs to a living personality. I think wiki rules are equally applicable to all the wiki pages. Hence, I request all of you that please don't make it a point of ego, instead develop the page with all positive feelings and make it more meaningful and informative. Regards. --Mahensingha 09:58, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

This is not a matter of ego, it is a matter of respect. These man risked death so that we could sit around writing encyclopedias. Anyway, this matter has already been mooted on WP:NFCR, a decision which I STRONGLY disagree with.Myopia123 (talk) 14:37, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Anyway, since you all are in the mood for deletion, Bana Singh is also inconveniencing Wikipedia by continuing his existence.Myopia123 (talk) 14:38, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Updates based on youtube

HI Aumnamahashiva, I see you have updated Yadav's rank to Subedar Major based on the Doordarshan republic day video. Even I noticed that but I did not edit this since it is not valid under WP:RS. There are newspapaer articles as recent as 23-25 Jan which refer to him as Subhedar ([1],[2]). There has been no official confirmation either on this update. Similarly, stating that he was promoted sometime in 2017-2018 is pure WP:OR on your part since even the video itself does not make any mention of it. I propose we hold off on this edit until we have further confirmation from a WP:RS. Thanks. Adamgerber80 (talk) 04:11, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Adamgerber80. Excuse my bluntness but quite frankly this is overly pedantic and frankly just plain dumb. He would not wear insignia of a rank that he did not hold. In India, it is common for all the JCO ranks to be addressed as "Subedar" and most civilians are not even aware of the differences in the three ranks. I see no issue here in updating the rank.Myopia123 (talk) 06:55, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And also Adamgerber80 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPLXjzP60L4 clearly mentioned in the title his rank is Subedar Major and it is from DD News, india's official, government owned news outlet. It is very reasonable to assume this is an official update. I am reverting.Myopia123 (talk) 06:59, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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