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The result was: promoted by Miyagawa (talk) 10:05, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Airlink (helicopter)[edit]

  • ... that the helicopter used for the "curious" Airlink shuttle service between Gatwick and Heathrow airports subsequently "languish[ed] in weeds somewhere in Brazil"?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sweetbriar Hall
  • Comment: No suitably licensed pics have come to light yet. The source of the Brazil quote and other parts of the article should be, I believe, of a suitable standard in relation to WP:RS etc. Alternative hooks/wording for the above welcome.

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 22:59, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

  • Symbol possible vote.svg No copyvio detected with CopyVio, date and length ok, the hook is source, article is neutral and the hook is interesting. The Holland cite which is the hook source and comprises the bulk of the article is problematic because it was not reviewed by a editorial/review board and appears to have originated on the author's personal website/blog. I'm unsure if Holland is considered in expert/reliable reference in the aviation field so I've posted over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airlines#Airlink to see if it passes muster. Otherwise, it is a very nice article. Froggerlaura ribbit 17:23, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
OK. It's not the sort of source I'd normally use, for this reason, but it was the only thing I could find which added background to the bare facts. Would another hook which does not rely on this source be acceptable, or will the use of the source in the article disqualify it entirely from DYK? If the former, I have an ALT hook which I can post here. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 18:14, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Another hook from another source would be needed to continue. These types of sources can be used sparingly, but a large part of the article currently relies on this source. Are there any newspaper/print media sources that back up the conflict over the shuttle or dates? (will look in The Times archives for some info) Froggerlaura ribbit 18:23, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
If you can find anything in The Times, that would be very helpful. (I don't have access to the archive.) Unfortunately my collection of Crawley books does not bring up anything. The Hansard report of the Parliamentary debate in 1986 (current ref [2]) supports most of the key points; on its own or together with Adam Thomson's book, it should support the following ALT hook:
ALT1 ... that the Airlink helicopter linked Gatwick and Heathrow airports until the M25 motorway was finished? Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 21:35, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Give me till the weekend to re-review, things are terribly busy at the moment (anyone else more than welcome to pick up). Froggerlaura ribbit 01:29, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. Just a quick note: I spent some time in Crawley Reference Library yesterday looking through some of the folders of Gatwick Airport material, but couldn't find anything – so I won't be able to add anything more to the article at this time :( Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 13:38, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
  • ALT1 is not exactly true because Airlink continued to exist until four months after the M25 was finished. I couldn't find much in the Times to replace the Holland source, but the only paragraph that uses the source extensively is the background section and the the majority of the other info is backed up by reliable sources. Froggerlaura ribbit 01:42, 6 February 2013 (UTC) How about
  • ALT2 ... that Prince Charles was one of the first passengers on the Airlink helicopter?
  • Symbol redirect vote4.png Hook needs a review by another editor since I suggested it. Froggerlaura ribbit 01:42, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg ALT2 hook is directly cited in the article. –HTD 05:01, 9 February 2013 (UTC)