Template:Did you know nominations/Commemorative Medal for Participants of the Barricades of 1991
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:03, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
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Commemorative Medal for Participants of the Barricades of 1991[edit]
- ... that the Commemorative Medal for Participants of the Barricades of 1991 has not been awarded since 2011? Source: "The Commemorative Medal for Participants of the Barricades of 1991". Latvijas Republikas Saeima (Latvian Parliament). Retrieved 2 November 2016.</ref>
Created by Yakikaki (talk). Self-nominated at 17:04, 2 November 2016 (UTC).
A very good article; adding the medal infobox would be nice but is not necessary to pass DYK. Source is interesting, of correct length, and sourced to RS (the Latvian parliament). Article is new enough and long enough. QPQ done. I have one issue with the NPOV in the article, vis a vis its reference to the "Soviet occupation." Is the period of the Latvian Soviet Socialist Republic a consensus-determined "occupation"? LavaBaron (talk) 17:40, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick feedback and the constructive review! As regards the occupation question, it is considered an occupation by the governments of the Baltic countries, the European Court of Human Rights, the United Nations Human Rights Council, the United States, and the European Union. It was not recognised as an occupation by the Soviet Union and is still not recognised as such by Russia. (see Latvian_Soviet_Socialist_Republic#International_status) I would argue that if everyone except the occupier thinks it's an occupation, it is. However, I will look into it a bit more and see if there is any Wikipedia-consensus on the issue. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Best, Yakikaki (talk) 17:50, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, Yakikaki, that's not necessary. I just needed to bring it up as a CYA in case it were to get pulled I have plausible deniability. I AGF your assertion that "the governments of the Baltic countries, the European Court of Human Rights, the United Nations Human Rights Council, the United States, and the European Union" recognize is as an occupation and no other nation other than the RF doesn't and that, therefore, the article is NPOV. Primary hook is GTG. LavaBaron (talk) 19:05, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't find the hook interesting. Plenty of projects peter out. Perhaps you could find something colorful to say about the award? Yoninah (talk) 00:02, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
- Oh, I thought it was pretty surprising when I read about it, but there you go, what interests one doesn't interest another. Nope, I don't have any other suggestions, that was what intrigued me about it and made me go for a DYK. Yakikaki (talk) 09:23, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
- What do you think about:
- ALT1: ... that everyone eligible to receive the Commemorative Medal for Participants of the Barricades of 1991 from the Republic of Latvia has already received one?
- ALT2: ... that some 32,000 people have been awarded the Commemorative Medal for Participants of the Barricades of 1991 from the Republic of Latvia? Yoninah (talk) 19:24, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick feedback and the constructive review! As regards the occupation question, it is considered an occupation by the governments of the Baltic countries, the European Court of Human Rights, the United Nations Human Rights Council, the United States, and the European Union. It was not recognised as an occupation by the Soviet Union and is still not recognised as such by Russia. (see Latvian_Soviet_Socialist_Republic#International_status) I would argue that if everyone except the occupier thinks it's an occupation, it is. However, I will look into it a bit more and see if there is any Wikipedia-consensus on the issue. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Best, Yakikaki (talk) 17:50, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
