Template:Did you know nominations/Democratic Union Party (Bukovina)

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The result was: promoted by PumpkinSky talk 22:11, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Democratic Union Party (Bukovina)

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... that, when Bukovina was united with Romania, the Democratic Union Party was the only local group to campaign for the abolition of regional autonomy?

Reviewed: Charles Louisson
Comment: Please hold this for the December 1 queue (Romania's national day).

Created/expanded by Dahn (talk). Self nom at 20:10, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Length is more than plenty (16111 characters) and the date of creation (November 13, 2011) is good. However, I can't see anything in the article stating that the DUP campaigned for the abolition of regional autonomy, let alone that they were the only ones to do so. There is plenty stating that Nistor was a nationalist, and wanted centralisation, but for the purposes of DYK, the hook needs to be pretty explicitly stated in the article, with an inline citation. As all sources are offline or foreign language, no copyvio or close paraphrasing spotchecks have been carried out. Harrias ^talk 17:21, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't know what explicitness would satisfy that requirement, but here's three parts of the article, where the information appears in various contexts: "In June, General Nicolae Petala heard numerous groups expressing support for the autonomist option: Flondor's Romanian moderates and George Grigorovici of the Romanian Socialists; Ukrainian Kasian Bohatyrets; Germans Albert Kohlruss and Rudolf Gaidosch; Jews Mayer Ebner and Iacob Pistiner." And: "Meanwhile, the Glasul Bucovinei group stood by the governing authority. Nistor supported centralism on principle, as a legalist, and (in agreement with the Romanian central authorities) viewed Flondor's compromise option as unsound." They all verify the hook, I do believe, and they all carry citations. (The first sample explicitly mentions that all other forces, including the two rival Romanian factions, were against the abolition of autonomy.) Dahn (talk) 17:31, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Maybe a part of the issue is with the ambiguity of "local" in the context of "the only local group", which could perhaps mean "the only group in Romania". Would it help if it were "the only Bukovinan group"? (I pondered this option as my first, but stopped because I'm not 100% sure that "Bukovinan" is preferred to "Bukovinian".) Dahn (talk) 17:34, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

(And please allow me to correct a small bit of your statement: the sources are not in English, but they're virtually all online.) Dahn (talk) 17:38, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

My concern is that the list of people/parties supporting autonomy and vice versa doesn't specifically state that they were the only ones as far as I can tell: they are just the only one listed. A simple by adding alone: "Meanwhile, the Glasul Bucovinei group alone stood by.." would make it clearer I think? Harrias ^talk 17:54, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Done. Your suggestion is excellent, and (before anyone asks) the rewording also complies with the historical record stated by the source (for instance, Gafiţa p.105-106). Dahn (talk) 18:51, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

With that change, the article looks good to go, and should make it for 1 December. Nice work. Harrias ^talk 19:27, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! Dahn (talk) 19:31, 29 November 2011 (UTC)