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The result was: promoted by BlueMoonset (talk) 15:08, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Lapidary (text), Lyngurium

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Lynx urinating, the urine turning to the mythical stone lyngurium. 13th-century English manuscript

  • ... that "almost every medieval lapidary" or book of gems included lyngurium, a gemstone supposedly formed of the solidified urine of the lynx (creation illustrated), which was first described by Theophrastus?

Created by Johnbod (talk). Self nominated at 15:36, 16 July 2013 (UTC).

  • Both articles long enough, well-referenced, no evidence of copyvio. Lapidary (text) was six days old at the time of nomination, but I think we can let that slide. Hook fact verified, QPQ done. Image is public domain and relevant to the subject. My only concern is that the hook's a bit wordy; perhaps it could be simplified by removing mention of Theophrastus? DoctorKubla (talk) 10:54, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
He is important because he is possibly the only author who thought he had actually seen the stuff; the others were all just following, so:
  • ALT1: ... that "almost every medieval lapidary" or book of gems included lyngurium, a gemstone formed of solidified lynx urine (creation illustrated), first described by Theophrastus?

-179 chars which (bearing in mind supplementary rule C3 for 2 article hooks) should be fine. Johnbod (talk) 13:27, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Well, alright. My concern was more about the difficulty of parsing the sentence than the number of characters – but if you feel Theophrastus must be included, we may as well go with the original hook (mainly because I think the word "supposedly" is important).
So, good to go, with the original hook. DoctorKubla (talk) 16:24, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Ok, thanks, although I think that is 205 chars, which is indeed over the limit. The "which was" is dispensible & with the rewording round "lynx" would sort that. So:
  • ALT2: ... that "almost every medieval lapidary" or book of gems included lyngurium, a gemstone supposedly formed of solidified lynx urine (creation illustrated), first described by Theophrastus? Johnbod (talk) 16:33, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Okay. ALT2 approved. DoctorKubla (talk) 07:08, 26 July 2013 (UTC)