Template:Did you know nominations/Nerodia clarkii
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:10, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
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Nerodia clarkii
Two red Mangrove salt marsh snakes
... that the threatened Atlantic Salt Marsh Snake has a record size of only 24 inches (2 feet)?Source: "Atlantic salt marsh snake". Florida Fish And Wildlife Conservation Commission. https://myfwc.com/wildlifehabitats/profiles/reptiles/snakes/atlantic-salt-marsh-snake/QUOTE: "The Atlantic salt marsh snake can reach a length of 24 inches (61 centimeters)"- Reviewed: NA
Created by Alexcs114 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:38, 5 June 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Nerodia clarkii; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
Eligible as a promoted GA, but the article needs some copyediting I'm surprised was missed in that process (I've done a little). Having said that, that's not strictly relevant. Basic Earwig check works out. The hook needs some work. "Threatened" isn't quite jargon, but still doesn't necessarily translate to the right meaning to a non-technical reader. "Only" also isn't clarified in the source (is this unusually small for such a snake? do most people have good mental images of how big snakes are in the first place?). The article clarifies that this seems to be smaller than other subspecies, which already sound like they're on the small end -- could that be worked in? Alternatively, what other possibilities are there? And can we contextualize these in metric? I also might suggest the addition of an image, given the striking red colour scheme of some of these snakes. Finally, I note there's no QPQ, though it's not clarified if the nominator needs one or not. Vaticidalprophet 13:34, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
- What is a QPQ? Also I appreciate the copyedits, though I notice that one of them ( the ones replacing "race" w/ "type") and whatnot make the article less scientifically accurate. This is because all of the reference material specifically mentioned "races", as they are all distinct subspecies. I'll go through the article later and review it to ensure that no other CEs need to be made.
Idk about the whole "only" thing, I was just trying to come up with something interesting. Agreed that an image would be neat. Don't know how to add one here. Alexcs114 :) 16:21, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
- Alexcs114, I've added a potential image. QPQ is reviewing another DYK nomination, but I don't think you need to do that yet, checking -- it's only necessary if you have five or more DYK credits. Sorry about the mistake -- I must've misread that one! I've written a proposed alternative hook that gets across a related idea in an interesting way...
- ALT1: ... that salt marsh snakes (pictured) can be as short as 15 inches (38 cm)?
- If you're happy with this hook and image, another editor can hopefully come approve it. Vaticidalprophet 22:31, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
- Vaticidalprophet No worries! I like that hook and image a lot, lets go with that. Tho the image isn't of the sub-species of snake directly mentioned in the hook, it's in the same species so it should be fine. Alexcs114 :) 23:37, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
- What is a QPQ? Also I appreciate the copyedits, though I notice that one of them ( the ones replacing "race" w/ "type") and whatnot make the article less scientifically accurate. This is because all of the reference material specifically mentioned "races", as they are all distinct subspecies. I'll go through the article later and review it to ensure that no other CEs need to be made.
