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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by CSJJ104 (talk) 21:33, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

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Oglethorpe County High School

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Created by Aoidh (talk). Self-nominated at 06:05, 3 September 2022 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: No - maybe
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Aoidh, I'd like to thank you for writing an article about a school. We don't get much of that these days. The article looks good, but I am not sure that the hook is interesting enough. I think it would be best to show the reader exactly how much the dropout rate fell following the adoption of that program. Scorpions13256 (talk) 01:40, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

@Scorpions13256: how about:
  • ALT2: ... that Oglethorpe County High School started a successful program to address the high school's 33% dropout rate, going from 65 dropouts in 1985-86 to just 4 in 1987-88?
  • ALT3: ... that Oglethorpe County High School had a program in the 1980s that addressed their 33% dropout rate, going from 65 dropouts in 1985-86 to 4 in 1987-88?
  • ALT4: ... that Oglethorpe County High School worked with the University of Georgia to bring their dropout rate from 65 dropouts in 1985-86 to just 4 in 1987-88?
Like the original hooks, the source for this data is the source linked above. - Aoidh (talk) 02:07, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
Aoidh Forgive me as this is my first review. How about ... that following a partnership with the University of Georgia, Oglethorpe County High School successfully lowered its dropout rate by more than 90% in just two years? Scorpions13256 (talk) 02:21, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
@Scorpions13256: How about a slight modification to include the decade and also space out the two wikilinks so they're not right next to each other:
Sounds good? - Aoidh (talk) 02:44, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. Great work. Scorpions13256 (talk) 02:49, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
@Scorpions13256 and Aoidh: can someone explain the difference between the 65 and 17 figures to me? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 09:06, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
Theleekycauldron Nice catch. It seems that the statistics for the second source contradict themselves. I'm assuming that the 17 students in the body may have been referring to one grade. I need to look into it some more. Scorpions13256 (talk) 09:32, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
Theleekycauldron, I have amended the article, but I am not sure whether it is the 65 that is accurate or the 17. Scorpions13256 (talk) 09:55, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
@Scorpions13256: are there other sources that touch on this claim? Maybe they provide a consensus one way or the other... in the absence of other sources, I'm not so sure I trust this one. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 10:08, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
Theleekycauldron I checked for sources before I responded to you, but I couldn't find anything. I agree with you that this hook is not trustworthy. It seems that we're going to have to use a different hook. Aoidh, what do you want to do about this? Scorpions13256 (talk) 10:27, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
@Scorpions13256 and Theleekycauldron: The numbers don't contradict themselves, the difference between the two numbers is that 17 is specifically only "the fall of 1985" whereas 65 is for the entirety of the 1985-1986 school year. I did find this source that verifies the program (I was looking at the "Download text" option; don't do that). If you click on the square on the right, the one with the State of Georgia with a box around it and some text it takes you to the full document. Page 3-28 says for the school: “Project Outcomes: The dropout rate at Oglethorpe County High School has decreased dramatically since the project was initiated. The rate has decreased from 43 percent of a cohort in 1986 to 33 percent in 1987. By March of 1988 the dropout rate had only reached 17 percent.” This report is directly from the Georgia Department of Education, for what its worth; it does seem to verify the 33% percentage numbers in the hook above, maybe we can amend that hook to use this source and say something like:
  • ALT6 ... that following a partnership with the University of Georgia, Oglethorpe County High School successfully lowered its dropout rate from 33% to 17% in just one year?
  • ALT6a ... that following a partnership with the University of Georgia, Oglethorpe County High School successfully lowered its dropout rate from 43% to 17% in just two years?
How does that sound? I'm fine with any alternate wording of that, if we wanted to remove the University of Georgia bit or add the 1986–87 (for ALT6) or 1985–86 (for ALT6a) starting rate dates or whatever, but I do think those stats are impressive. - Aoidh (talk) 17:05, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
I'm fine with it. I'll let leaky make the final call though. Scorpions13256 (talk) 21:16, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
Do remember to respect the closing template tag :) but those hooks sound fine to me theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 23:48, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
Actually, Aoidh, could you move the 17% cite to the end of the relevant sentence as well? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 00:09, 18 September 2022 (UTC) nevermind, leeky screwed that one up theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 02:32, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
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