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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by PFHLai (talk) 01:58, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

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Paralobesia viteana

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  • Reviewed: Not required, as this is my first DYK nomination per exemption in Eligibility Criteria 5. I'll likely do a review afterwards, though, after getting some experience with DYK through this self-nomination.

Created/expanded by AddWittyNameHere (talk). Self nominated at 04:26, 14 November 2013 (UTC).

Checklist:

  • New enough - created within the time limit.
  • Long enough - comfortably over the 1500 character minumum.
  • Within policy - seems to be neutral, however my checks here show slightly too close paraphrasing.
  • The hook checks out although if it could be made more concise that would be better.
  • An image, either of the pest or of the grapes affected would be nice although not essential for DYK.
  • QPQ not required.

--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 00:18, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

  • Yes, I've been trying to find an image of either of those, but so far have found only copyrighted or too restrictively licensed images, and this is not a case where one could say "fair use", I'd say.
  • Regarding the paraphrasing, while the link you gave mentions a bunch of flagged sentences, I honestly do not see most of that as paraphrasing. One false match ("in the middle of", which is used in the article for wingpattern and in the source for placement within a vineyard), five matches are ref-names; two matches, one of which also falls in the previous category, are on commonly acknowledged different names of the species ("endopiza viteana" and "grape berry moth" respectively); twelve are matches on terminology (a bunch of "generations" matches; pupate/pupal stage matches; grapevine bloom; "native to Eastern North America" (a species is native or invasive and Eastern North America is the established name of a bioregion); "newly hatched").
What remains are seven matches. Creamy white is shared with at least one other source (source 2) and is a specific shade, changing this would actually alter the meaning; "leaf litter on the ground" - if I were to change this to leaf-litter, I'd be paraphrasing source 2 instead, yet it's too vital to leave out completely; furthermore, I formulated it that way to avoid paraphrasing source 4's "l[...] may also drop to the ground and pupate in leaf litter." If you've got a suggestion for this one, though, please let me know. Then there's "to the size of about"; source four already uses approximately, source seven uses measures. I'll see if I can think up a way to formulate it that doesn't constitute paraphrasing a different source nor original research. "Developing fruit" can easily be changed to 'growing fruit', although I suspect but don't know for sure that that will be a paraphrase of another source. "Externally on" will be changed to 'from the outside', although it seems to be common enough to refer to it this way, as it's shared with at least one other source (source five). "[...] berries and feed" is indeed paraphrasing. I'll see what I can change it to. Probably will be something along the lines of 'berries, from where they feed' or such. "Can cause serious" - one is in the context of economic loss (the source), the other is in the context of damage to the harvest, but that's close enough that I'll change it to "may cause serious". "On grape berries" is used in a different context, but I'll see what I can change it to.
  • If you have any sugestions to better the hook, I'd be highly interested in hearing them.
Thank you for reviewing. :) AddWittyNameHere (talk) 02:05, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for addressing these; as I mentioned on my talk page, I was only referring to a couple of the longer sections, but I appreciate the changes you've made. As it looks now I'd say this is good to go.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 16:32, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
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