Template:Did you know nominations/Starweb

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 06:54, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Starweb

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• ... that Starweb, published in 1976 and still available for play, "is arguably the best-loved, most widely known play-by-mail game in history" according to author and game designer Timothy B. Brown? Source: Challenge magazine No. 42., February–March 1990, page 76, in an article titled "StarWeb".
  • ALT1:... that Starweb, published in 1976 and still available for play, was the second play-by-mail (PBM) game published by Flying Buffalo Inc. after it launched the professional PBM industry in 1970? Source: Bob McLain, PBM: The Infancy of CyberSpace, Starweb Capsule Review in The Space Gamer magazine, Issue No. 29, page 30; Rick Loomis, The History of Flying Buffalo Inc.

• comment = Did you know nominations/Green Guerillas

Improved to Good Article status by Airborne84 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:56, 3 September 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: This is all good outside the nominator needing to do their QPQ. @Airborne84: ping me when that's complete. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:34, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the review @Favre1fan93:! I did a QPQ review of the Green Guerillas nomination. Airborne84 (talk) 00:34, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

@Airborne84: Great. Hook is cited with an offline source so passing in good faith. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 02:01, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

This hook is a bit too promotional for my taste—it just feels like a good review, even if it is more in hindsight. How about:

ALT2: ... that the play-by-mail game Starweb was made by Flying Buffalo, Inc.?

ALT3: ... that the play-by-mail game Starweb inspired the first independent magazine about play-by-mail games? this one's a bit more of a stretch

either of those catch your eye? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 09:37, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

I would suggest maybe this for ALT4. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 14:35, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

ALT4: ... that the play-by-mail game Starweb, first published in 1976, is still available today through postal mail or email?

I support ALT4. Play-by-mail and Flying Buffalo by themselves are topics that may not hook the average reader. ALT4 offers a bit more and seems interesting overall. Thanks. Airborne84 (talk) 00:37, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Great. Theleekycauldron if you're going to promote, can we go with ALT4? Thanks. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 01:17, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

ALT4 to T:DYK/P6