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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 02:11, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

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We Are One (global collaboration song)

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  • ... that Kashan Admani has brought 40 musicians from 7 countries to collaborate for a song "We Are One" and give a message of hope and togetherness to the global population affected by COVID19?
    • ALT1:... that the song "We Are One" features Grammy-winning violinist Charlie Bisharat, drummer Simon Phillips, Dr. Palash Sen, and many others?
  • Comment: Please save this nomination for a couple of days so it may be on the main page.

Created by Aanuarif (talk). Self-nominated at 22:50, 29 May 2020 (UTC).

  • New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced. However, there is close paraphrasing from the source which needs to be rewritten in your own words:
  • Source: The Mizmaar guitarist came up with the idea to create a song that would be a united prayer, featuring singers and musicians from across the world.
  • Article: Kashan Admani came up with the idea to create a song that would be a united prayer, featuring singers and musicians from across the world,
  • The image looks like it is incorrectly licensed and I have nominated it for deletion at Wikimedia Commons. If you did not create this artwork, it should probably be uploaded at the English Wikipedia as "fair use".
  • Neither of the hooks strikes me as particularly "hooky". ALT0 reads like a press release. Most international readers will never have heard of Kashan Admani, so it might be better to call it a Pakistani project and let the reader click through to learn more. ALT1 doesn't have a lot of context for readers who've never heard of the song. We also try not to name people who aren't notable enough to have a Wikipedia article on the main page.
  • No QPQ needed for nominator with less than 5 DYK credits. Yoninah (talk) 22:32, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
  • As pointed out above their are issues with the article's infobox image that still need to be resolved on Commons. If it turns out that the file is deleted from Commons, then it might be possible to upload locally as non-free use; however, non-free files can only used in the article namespace per WP:NFCC#9 which means it cannot be used in a DYK.
    Some other things I noticed are that it would probably be better to WP:PIPE the wikilinks for Simon Phillips (drummer), Euphoria (Indian band), Overload (Pakistani band), Natasha Khan (Pakistani singer) and Ali Khan (singer); and tweak the formating of the non-English citation We Are One (global collaboration song)#cite_note-16 using the parameters |language=, |script-title=, |title= and |trans-title= per Template:Cite web#Title so that at least the name of the source cited is in English. Some cleanup is also needed per WP:MAJORWORK for links to newspapers like The Express Tribune, etc., and perhaps removing the citations from the lead per MOS:CITELEAD since they are basically citing the same content later in the article. FWIW, I'm not sure whether it's proper for me to do any of these things per DYK protocol; so, I'm just pointing them out for now as part of a QPQ for the DYK nomination of Sōta Fujii. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:01, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
  • @Marchjuly: there is no DYK protocol here because you're just helping out. If you were the reviewer, you would have to recuse yourself from approving this (and possibly add yourself to the DYK creation credits for this nomination for doing so much work on it). Thanks for your assistance. Yoninah (talk) 20:29, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you for clarifying that. Normally, I would just fix things I think need fixing, but I didn't want to disrupt the DYK process. Most of the changes I made were formatting and syntax types of WP:GNOME work; I wouldn't consider myself to be a major contributor, and thus there's no need for me to get any DYK credit. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:12, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for reviewing my submission. Can you please assist me as to what needs to be done to make the entry acceptable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aanuarif (talk • contribs) 06:03, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

  • Yes, Aanuarif, you can get rid of the close paraphrasing that I mentioned above. Since it is a rather long sentence that you copied from the source, please rewrite it in your own words. Is there any more information you can add to the article, like how much it cost or where it was recorded? Aside from mentioning all the performers involved, there's not much to the article right now. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 20:26, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification. I have made the changes as you asked for. Please let me know if more needs to be done. Aanuarif (talk) 06:24, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

  • @Aanuarif: Thank you for the edits. But you have not fixed the close paraphrasing. You must rewrite this sentence in your own words:
  • Source: The Mizmaar guitarist came up with the idea to create a song that would be a united prayer, featuring singers and musicians from across the world.
  • Article: Kashan Admani came up with the idea to create a song that would be a united prayer, featuring singers and musicians from across the world,
  • Yoninah (talk) 13:16, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: Thank you for your guidance once again. I have changed that part. Aanuarif (talk) 05:41, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Does this really need to be disambiguated as "global collaboration song"? I get that musicians participating from seven countries is in a sense "global", but it seems like it might be a bit much. Perhaps there's a better way to disambiguate it, like " COVID-19 collaboration song" or "Kashan Admani" song. I'm not trying to scuttle this nomination. Just bringing this up for discussion. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:13, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
  • @Marchjuly: Hi @Marchjuly! Thank you for the review and your concern. I could have written the article the exact way as you have mentioned here. However, all the news sources and even the producers along with the participating artists refer to it as a global collaboration song. Aanuarif (talk) 10:44, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
  • As this nomination appears to have stalled, I have gone ahead and removed the close paraphrasing and also edited the article. The image has been nominated for deletion and might be re-posted as fair use, but it should not be used with this hook. Here is a streamlined version of ALT0:
  • ALT2: ... that 40 musicians from seven countries collaborated on the song "We Are One", which extends a message of hope and unity to the global population affected by COVID-19?
  • ALT2 hook refs verified and cited inline. ALT2 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 12:57, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
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