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Template:Db-c1[edit]

There seems to be a problem with this template. Category:Candidates for speedy deletion and Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as empty categories are appearing on tagged pages but when you go to these two categories, the tagged pages aren't listed. And what really needs to happen is for the page to be tagged Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion and appear in that category for 7 days.

After 7 days, the tagged category pages are THEN suppose to move from Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion to Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as empty categories where they are then deleted by admins who patrol there. But, today (on Nov. 8th) I'm finding category pages that were tagged on Oct. 31st and they haven't been moved to Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as empty categories. I was editing this template, then realized that I really didn't understand the coding so I'm posting this problem here and maybe an editor who works with templates can figure out what is not working. Thanks! Liz Read! Talk! 22:21, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

Here is an example of what I'm talking about Category:Zhang Liangying albums. Liz Read! Talk! 22:23, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
I did a WP:NULLEDIT on Category:Zhang Liangying albums and the category is now listed. Joe Decker, is this a normal duty for this is task 5 of Joe's Null Bot (talk · contribs)? If so, is the bot running? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 00:07, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
I have found Category:2018 Invictus Games navigational boxes, Category:Indoor rowing at the Invictus Games, Category:Invictus Games by year navigational boxes and Category:Invictus Games events navigational boxes, applied a WP:NULLEDIT to each one, and these are now showing in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as empty categories which was previously empty. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 10:27, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
All four of those have now been deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs), so it's clear to me that it was the lack of a recent WP:NULLEDIT that had not moved the pages from Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion to Category:Candidates for speedy deletion and Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as empty categories. Awaiting Joe's reply: they haven't edited for a couple of weeks, so I suspect that the bot is stopped. Will drop a note at WP:BON. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 11:53, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
Seems like a straightforward task. If Joe doesn't restart his bot then I can have FastilyBot do this. -FASTILY 00:47, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

How to simulate Joe's Null Bot manually:

  1. Go to Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion.
  2. If there are no more category links under the "Subcategories" heading, stop.
  3. Click one of the category links under the "Subcategories" heading.
  4. Look at the last line of the pink box, beginning "This page was last edited by ...".
  5. Examine the timestamp on that line. If this is later than 10:08, 13 January 2019 (UTC), go back to step 2.
  6. Perform a WP:NULLEDIT.
  7. Check Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as empty categories to make sure the category is now listed there.
  8. Return to Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion and make sure the category is no longer listed there (if it is, reload the page).
  9. Go back to step 2.

--Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:28, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for everyone who looked into this. When I checked random categories in Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion two days ago, there were some categories listed which had been sitting there for 8 or 9 days and all of the categories were listed in alphabetical order.
But as of yesterday, all of the older empty categories had now been moved to Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as empty categories (and been deleted) and the categories now listed in Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion are ordered by how many days they have been sitting there...so, at the beginning of the listing are categories that were tagged 6 days ago, then ones that were tagged 5 days ago and so on which is very convenient. Well, it is convenient for admins but not so convenient for editors who patrol this list and look for categories that have been emptied out-of-process. I'm sure glad I didn't attempt to fix this myself because I see things could have gotten much messier than they were! Liz Read! Talk! 00:44, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
Think the bot should be functional again, and should run at its regularly scheduled time sometime in the next 24 hours. --joe deckertalk 06:07, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
I had reordered the category to make it easy to check if this gets resolved. I (or someone else) can revert the change if the previous order is desired. — JJMC89(T·C) 06:27, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

{{Db-g13}}[edit]

The CSD that this template relates to was changed, and therefore the template was changed to reflect that, but I find the new wording clunky and potentially confusing:

" This template may meet Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion as either a page in the draftspace, a rejected/unsubmitted userspace Articles for Creation page, or a draft in either namespace with no content except the placeholder article wizard text that has not been edited (excluding bot edits) in over six months. See CSD G13."

There's got to be a better way to word this, but in the interest of not making it worse I'm soliciting suggestions here. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:59, 1 January 2019 (UTC)