Talk:Isotopes of hassium

Discrepancy with "Island of stability" article

From the "Island of stability" article, "108 Hassium 277Hs ~12 minutes[8] Isotopes of hassium" with reference to http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/podcast/Interactive_Periodic_Table_Transcripts/Hassium.asp

This article does not have a half life specified, and in the introduction, it says the longest lived isotope is 269.

One of these needs to be fixed. Since I am not an expert, I will leave that to someone else.75.87.250.78 (talk) 20:29, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

6th paragraph: "Element 108, today known as hassium, is one of the transactinides and it's most stable isotope - hassium-277 - has a half life of around 12 minutes." Double sharp (talk) 13:37, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe more reliable are Oganessian and Rykaczewski giving 30 seconds for ²⁷⁷Hs SF. Double sharp (talk) 06:24, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Note to self

Todo: in Big Table, replace current footnote ^[a] with #-notation as other Big Tables have (# = "Values marked # are not purely derived from experimental data, but at least partly from systematic trends. Spins with weak assignment arguments are enclosed in parentheses, ( )") -DePiep (talk) 12:25, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Data not decisive

@DePiep: the point of that note is that you can't name the most stable isotope easily. There is no claim about that in the table, and therefore the note doesn't serve its purpose here.--R8R (talk) 19:56, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I get this. But once we can sort this table by hl (so desired), it makes more sense. And, as it stands now, it is just a note -- not an error IMO.

With or without this note here, should we change {{infobox hassium isotopes}}? The note could be more appropriate there. -DePiep (talk) 20:11, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It didn't make sense. This note in the infobox casts doubt on the explicit claim that Hs-269 was the most stable isotope, it was written with this purpose and it says this; to work properly, it needs that claim or any discussion about what the most stable isotope is. The table, however, doesn't claim anything of sorts and has no room for the discussion of which isotope is the most stable one as it is unless it had, say, a column that ranked isotopes on their half-life (something we could but shouldn't have). We can't really tie it here to anything and the note works better even as standalone text; I've moved it to the lead section. I hadn't seen your reply when I did it but I hope you'll agree with this edit.--R8R (talk) 20:23, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]