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1 Nice van! 2022-08-26 19:15 2022-08-31 22:24 10 3669 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/54
2 note re items 2022-08-31 22:16 2022-08-31 22:18 2 606 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/54
3 Closure 2022-09-02 12:06 2022-09-03 12:09 3 914 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/54
4 Carvel 2022-09-03 15:49 2022-09-03 18:40 2 673 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/54
5 Heinz Tomato Ketchup 2022-09-03 20:51 2022-09-03 20:52 2 636 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/54
6 Close of a recent discussion 2022-09-07 08:49 2022-09-07 15:53 3 1601 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/54
7 Fox News 2022-09-09 03:37 2022-09-09 03:39 2 765 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/54
8 Frank Mrvan 2022-09-09 13:25 2022-09-09 13:59 2 910 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/54
9 archive parameters 2022-09-11 17:57 2022-09-13 23:48 5 2487 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/54
10 Please help: Libelous content 2022-09-15 16:20 2022-09-15 16:21 2 1272 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/54
11 Manifest destiny Rfc on United States 2022-09-19 03:31 2022-09-19 18:57 4 2176 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/54
12 Sep 28: Wikimedia NYC Annual Election/Members Meeting (+October 2 picnic) 2022-09-20 01:35 2022-09-20 01:35 1 2103 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/54
13 Recent edit to page "recession" 2022-09-28 02:41 2022-09-28 02:55 4 1966 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/54
14 Sun Oct 2: WikiNYC Post-Election Wiki-Picnic 2022-09-28 17:31 2022-09-28 17:31 1 1855 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/54
15 Tony Evers page / Crime 2022-09-28 23:53 2022-09-28 23:57 2 886 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/54
16 A barnstar for you! 2022-09-29 20:44 2022-09-29 21:26 2 941 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/54
17 Wiki Curious 2022-10-01 22:41 2022-10-01 22:46 2 719 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/54
18 Please stop 2022-10-03 19:23 2022-10-03 19:24 2 928 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/54
19 For wiwo function 2022-10-14 12:31 2022-10-15 05:28 4 1679 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/54
20 Paid hack accusations 2022-10-15 18:06 2022-10-15 18:11 2 1745 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/54
21 Content Creativity Barnstar 2022-10-17 15:02 2022-10-17 16:26 3 1400 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/54
22 Sat Oct 29: Wikidata Day in NYC 2022-10-17 17:59 2022-10-17 17:59 1 2322 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/54
23 Revision to Nairobi talk page. 2022-10-24 04:44 2022-10-24 05:25 4 3979 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/54


Nice van!

A caravan not of vans

I love the van in your sig. Please reply below so that your stalkers may enjoy it. Bishonen | tålk 19:15, 26 August 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Aw thanks Bishonen!! Always great to hear from you! What's new? Andre🚐 Andre🚐 Andre🚐 19:16, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Your fine caravan of vans, apparently! Bishonen | tålk 19:23, 26 August 2022 (UTC).[reply]
Love it! I rode a camel once. Kind of bumpy and smelly. Andre🐪 19:27, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I can see your camel even though it's so small and cute. If you should need a sock (the very idea!), how about User:AManWithAVan[spacing, CamelCase capitalization, in -> with, updated by Andre🚐 to pt to right name)? Bishonen | tålk 19:41, 26 August 2022 (UTC).[reply]
Like it, but it kind of sounds like I'm a moving service, or a junk-lugger. A man, a plan, a canal, Panama! Andre🚐 19:47, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, maybe I should lean into that whole thing... A Man in a Van Wiki-Antiques Road Show and Vintage Web 1.0 Consignments? Andre🚐 03:29, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Not to be confused with User:AManWithNoPlan Andre🚐 03:38, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
A man, a plan, a canal... Panama. A man, a plan, a van, a camel... Wikipedia!! lol! Sm8900 (talk) 22:20, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
NICE ONE! 😂 Andre🚐 22:24, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

note re items

I see that you are a fellow experienced editor of over a decade, like myself. I appreciate your clarity and positive approach at the Village Pump WMF page, as you know from my comments. thanks for your efforts! Sm8900 (talk) 22:16, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's very kind of you to say! Thank you so much! Andre🚐 22:18, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Closure

Hellooooooo. About your close, what part of the RfC topic did you think was not "specific and targeted"? Fad Ariff (talk) 12:06, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Check out WP:RFC Wikipedia:Writing requests for comment. It will be easier to gain consensus if you start with one narrow question at a time, rather than putting a series of copyedits and rewrites to an RFC. Andre🚐 13:02, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Fad Ariff (talk) 12:09, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Carvel

Hello again. I saw your recent edits to Carvel (franchise) and wanted to discuss. What is your full Discord username? I can't seem to locate you without a four-digit tag. Best, ɱ (talk) 15:49, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I forgot about that tag business with discord. skeptical_personage#0577 Andre🚐 18:40, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Heinz Tomato Ketchup

Thank you for removing the advert tag. I spent a few weeks cleaning up this article and after more than forty edits, I am happy that you appreciate the work I did. I am still working on it, so check it out again in a few weeks. Absolutely Certainly (talk) 20:51, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ah ok, nice work! Andre🚐 20:52, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Close of a recent discussion

You recently closed Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biology#RfC on boldfacing of scientific names in articles about organisms as There is a consensus to always boldface the scientific name of the organism. This will be added to WikiProject Biology's style guidelines. Fully agree with your judgement that there is such consensus, but I've got a slight quibble with your wording: "always" can easily be read to mean "on every occurrence in every article", while the scope of the discussion was "on first use (when it is introduced) in the article about that specific taxon". To avoid future confusion about the implications of the RfC, would you terribly mind slightly adjusting the language in the close? AddWittyNameHere 08:49, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I have added the requested clarification. Andre🚐 14:04, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! AddWittyNameHere 15:53, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fox News

Speaking of closing, what is happening with your RfC at RSN? I can't process what is going on with the discussion after I gave my input. Are potential closers confronted with the same and therefore the discussion won't ever close? Morbidthoughts (talk) 03:37, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It will be closed, be patient. It's already listed for closure, but there are several other older RFCs. And I thank you for your input there, Morbidthoughts. Andre🚐 03:39, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Mrvan

Hi @Andrevan, I'm occupied very much elsewhere and an editor has asked for a move review here and I feel you can explain it the best way. I did do some searches before doing the move and I don't think "badly contested RMT requests" should be moved to full-fledged RMs for the sake of everyone's time. I'm convinced about this being the primary topic. Regards, ─ The Aafī (talk) 13:25, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sure no problem. Thanks for the note and for moving. I'll respond. Andre🚐 13:59, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

archive parameters

Hi. The archiveprefix seems a little off to me, but I cant be sure. What I am sure about is, the numberstart should be 55. Thats the archive subpage where the bot begins to store the recent archive. Currently, you have set it to 1, and maxarchivesize is 25000. So the next time bot runs, it will move the recent archive to User talk:Andrevan/Archives/1 until it is 25000 in size. After that, it will start archiving in the subpage which is less 25000 in size. I see you have already placed archive now template in a thread, so you can see where/how it goes. Let me know if you have any questions after the bot's next run. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:57, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note and the help. I just got @CX Zoom to help me by mass moving all the old pages from User:Andrevan/Archive2 etc to User talk:Andrevan/Archives/2 so hopefully now when it archives, it will go to the right place and update the indices. It seems that it wasn't documented but you can't archive to a different subpage from the page that's being archived - I guess it makes sense, but I had all those old manual archives dating back to 2004, and it did work to update the index with the old format, but was not archiving properly. It makes sense that the numberstart should be 55 (or 54 actually since the archive 54 isn't full yet), but that doesn't explain why it wasn't respecting the archiveprefix and the base page name. If you look closely at what the bot did, it was half-working with the old format. Anyway, I think everything looks better now, so with any luck it'll work now. Thanks again for checking in. Andre🚐 18:02, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
it worked perfectly —usernamekiran (talk) 23:20, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes working great - thanks for the help and for checking back in! Andre🚐 23:35, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
my pleasure. See you around —usernamekiran (talk) 23:48, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please help: Libelous content

I see you are a member of WikiProject for Companies. I thought you might assist in an urgent matter. The section Digital Currency Group#Allegations of lending malfeasance is libelous, poorly sourced and needs to be removed. It is based on a Medium blog by an anonymous non-expert with 100 followers, which by itself is an unacceptable source according to WP:RSSELF. Medium is a platform similar to WordPress or Tumblr - while some editorial sites use it, in this case the blogger is anonymous and states in the article they relied on their own original research, and that the article was written as “speculation” based on primary sources they interpreted, thus failing WP:RELIABLE. I have a COI as a paid consultant for DCG and don’t want to violate WP:COI, which is why I am reaching out to related project members? Thanks much.CertifiedTurtle (talk) 16:20, 15 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like the section was removed by Cullen Andre🚐 16:21, 15 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Manifest destiny Rfc on United States

Manifest destiny is a huge topic in the context of US territorial expansion, it's been included in every US history textbook and scholarly source. I wanted to get the request for comment closed and add a sentence to reference it in United States#Independence and expansion with a wikilink, however it appears the talk page Talk:United States has extended conf protection so I can't respond to the Rfc or close it? I can edit the main article however (?) but I don't want to make a WP:BOLD edit if I can't edit the talk page. I believe there's consensus that Manifest Destiny needs to be referenced in the article. Putting a sentence and wikilink to it in that section seems like a fair compromise imho.

Do you feel this is a good compromise & the Rfc should be closed? Unburnable (talk) 03:31, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I think the RFC is clearly showing a consensus that manifest destiny should be included in the article in the independence and expansion section. I think you can go ahead and try your bold edit, but if someone reverts you, then you should go to the Wikipedia:Closure requests page to get someone to formally close the RFC. I'm not really sure why the talk page is extendedconfirmed protected - probably were too many socks and trolls on that page. Andre🚐 03:38, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Done; hope you like my compromise: I didn't give much weight to the term while including it which I hope appeases the detractors. Unburnable (talk) 17:37, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good to me, hopefully nobody else objects. Thanks! Andre🚐 18:57, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Recent edit to page "recession"

Recently added a factual non biased neutral fact to the page "recession" relating to the redefinition in 2022 of the term in the US, and provided a link to the article referenced. This is a historical fact, is not biased, actually occurred, and should not be censored. Any scholor of economics would find that edit useful. I guess Wikipedia doesn't accept facts being added to articles? 72.201.145.102 (talk) 02:41, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That is incorrect, this is well covered in the faq: Talk:Recession/FAQ. Or at least, it should be. The Biden admin did not change the definition of a recession. Andre🚐 02:48, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(by talk reader) (edit conflict) Your edit makes comment on the current administration and cites The Post Millennial which this left-wing website is less apt to accept. This is exactly the sort of thing you ought to develop consensus for on the article's talk page. Chris Troutman (talk) 02:51, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
What Chris means is, "There is consensus that The Post Millennial is generally unreliable. Editors have noted multiple instances of inaccurate reporting, and consider the publication to be strongly biased." Not "this left-wing website." WP:POSTMIL Andre🚐 02:55, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Tony Evers page / Crime

Specifics about why the content was removed would be appreciated. Content was all cited - sometimes it's just favorable to the subject. Meanwhile, user Ser! is removing thoroughly sourced, neutral content routinely with no valid explanation. Dawson53562 (talk) 23:53, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The content you posted seemed to closely follow a conservative website's talking points. It's too much weight for an unreliable partisan source and their particular view of this political issue. There might have been some content in what you were posting that could be included. Andre🚐 23:57, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Pointless Barnstar
For investing a massive amount of time into closing a bloody messy discussion with an underwhelming result, only to have to deal with complainers, I hereby award you a pointless barnstar. Though the results may not have been impressive, the effort certainly was. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 20:44, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Wow thank you @Compassionate727, what an unexpected surprise, that's very kind of you! Andre🚐 21:26, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Curious

Hi Andre, I appreciate the discussion and sources found. I apologize if my tone gave another impression. From my history one can see while challenging, the edits have always been constructive in good faith. I will review the policies closer. I see it is best to take the time to edit articles with reliable sources. 134.79.160.199 (talk) 22:41, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Thanks. Andre🚐 22:46, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop

With the unexplained reverts [1]. 2A01:4B00:9D42:6E00:FCE7:AC6D:CFC5:3126 (talk) 19:23, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove or blank page content or templates from Wikipedia without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Andre🚐 19:24, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For wiwo function

I am Harshit jain from India that is very important source and relaible source but you wrong here because the compactness theorem is the triysoff theorem wiwo function also a compact space proof that is wave in wave oscillation also in FBP PRINCIPLE


Contact on email 

 Donharshjain@gmail.com

Former assistant professor 

 Dr. Harshit jain
 From areial university, Isarel

Not anything found on internet Ajitendra kumar jain (talk) 12:31, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reply me fast Ajitendra kumar jain (talk) 12:32, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Hello, I'm Andrevan. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Andre🚐 14:19, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Reply me Ajitendra kumar jain (talk) 05:28, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The personal attacks against myself and others needs to stop. Here are just a few of them:

  • [2] 19:24, May 26, 2022‎ Loopbackdude
    • "Your insular anti change position indicates you may be a paid hack spending your time covering for other paid hacks who hang out on wikipedia."
  • [3] 04:04, October 15, 2022‎ Loopbackdude
    • "A particular editor has been incorrect on choosing sources for years and rightly deserves critisim. Clearly a political hack, and based on what he edits, most likely a paid political hack."
  • [4] 04:05, October 15, 2022‎ Loopbackdude
    • "Still a hack."

That editor should be topic banned or simply banned as NOTHERE. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 18:06, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I concur, I warned this user and if they persist after that warning I will report them to an admin or an appropriate noticeboard to have their activities reviewed for a block per WP:NPA. I am sorry you have to deal with this kind of inappropriate message. I encourage any friendly admins who might stalk this talk page to engage with this user. Andre🚐 18:11, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Content Creativity Barnstar

You too deserve a barnstar:

The Content Creativity Barnstar
For advancing the state of the art. Your work in development and application of Lead section links (§-links) is much appreciated. The test in the lead at Donald Trump is working! It leaves a very clean lead and connects each item and claim in the lead to the exact section in the body where the expanded content and references are located. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 15:02, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Will this deserve a DYK mention on the main page soon? -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 15:04, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! :-) Andre🚐 16:26, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Revision to Nairobi talk page.

Hi Andrevan. I am a student of African History and occasionally dip my feet in Wikipedia when I see obvious nonsense (but do so rarely as it's something of a lost cause and I don't have the time). The paragraph I addressed is wrong historically and has likely been placed there by a single individual who is going around the Kenya pages and inserting his particular ideological take on history. The causes for the Mau Mau were many but the expansion of Nairobi was not one of them, neither was there any continuity to the confluence of events that this individual would have you believe led to Kenya's Independence.

If it is the same individual I suspect it is, he seems to want to rope the Maasai and Kamba peoples into the Mau Mau with the Kikuyu (Embu and Meru as well) as 'Freedom Fighters'. Fun fact: Most tribes in Kenya fought for the Government side and as I note in the talk section the majority of casualties incurred by the Mau Mau were from other Kikuyu (the Kikuyu Home Guard) - the Mau Mau was as much a civil war amongst the Kikuyu as it was an insurgency.

You note that one of Wikipedia's strengths is that anyone can edit it. This no doubt is also, its biggest weakness. Wikipedia is used and abused to revise History by Ideologues. Obviously, no-one with a brain in their head would use Wikipedia as a Historical source but sadly, it is used by young persons for just that.

So, let the paragraph stand if you think it is OK to abuse the minds of young people! 2001:8003:70F5:2400:2868:EACF:1147:57A5 (talk) 04:44, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I would be happy to help you update the article and improve it, but you need a reliable source for the information. If you have that, we can fix the article. Andre🚐 04:47, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well the reliable source he used was the Pulitzer Prize winning Caroline Elkins whose estimate for the total deaths during the Mau Mau was 300,000 (50,000 more than the actual number of adult male Kikuyu) and 280,000 more than the next highest sober assessment of the casualty figures by other Historians. Elkins has been thoroughly discredited as a source of the Mau Mau (but she is wildly popular with Revisionists)! So, I am more than happy to leave the nonsense statement under the guise of a nonsense Historian (Neil Ferguson who chaired the Pulitzer Prize Committee has since expressed his regret).
This 'reliable' source was attached to the first sentence (again, I doubt it has any relevance to his statement) and his following two statements are simply a confluence of events that he desires to tie in with it. I have detailed how this works in other sections of Wikipedia (typically by taking an [event], attaching it to some other [historical source (related or not)] and then capping it with [an unsubstantiated source that fortifies an ideological based POV] - it looks academic but is total gunk!
As I said: Wikipedia is being abused by Ideologues for the purposes of revising History. 2001:8003:70F5:2400:2868:EACF:1147:57A5 (talk) 05:03, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be happy to help you correct this. I am not an expert and I do not claim any knowledge of the topic. But you'll need to provide a reliable source for what you are saying. Andre🚐 05:25, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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