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1 Concern regarding Draft:Scott Stedman 2023-06-29 01:02 2023-06-29 01:02 1 729 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/59
2 Administrators' newsletter – July 2023 2023-07-01 12:57 2023-07-01 12:57 1 3210 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/59
3 Concern regarding Draft:Chappaqua Friends Meeting House 2023-07-02 04:01 2023-07-02 04:01 1 764 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/59
4 July 19 WikiWednesday + New York Botanical Garden Edit-a-thon (July 29) 2023-07-12 03:21 2023-07-12 03:21 1 3445 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/59
5 Editor help... 2023-07-20 09:54 2023-07-20 14:59 2 595 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/59
6 Concern regarding Draft:Trudy Busch Valentine 2023-07-27 15:04 2023-07-27 15:04 1 745 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/59
7 Disambiguation link notification for August 7 2023-08-07 06:01 2023-08-07 06:01 1 513 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/59
8 Administrators' newsletter – August 2023 2023-08-08 08:53 2023-08-08 08:53 1 2682 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/59
9 Notice of noticeboard discussion 2023-08-09 21:42 2023-08-10 01:02 2 990 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/59
10 WikiWednesday (Aug 23) and Governors Island Wiki-Picnic (Sun Aug 27) 2023-08-15 00:50 2023-08-15 00:50 1 3521 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/59
11 Talk:Trump fake electors plot 2023-08-19 18:27 2023-08-19 18:27 2 479 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/59
12 On wiki, off wiki 2023-08-19 06:14 2023-08-20 07:12 6 2898 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/59
13 You may find this interesting 2023-08-22 03:07 2023-08-23 20:05 2 800 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/59
14 Categorizing articles 2023-08-25 04:01 2023-08-25 04:01 1 1541 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/59
15 Sunday: NYC Wiki-Picnic @ Gov Island 2023-08-26 03:31 2023-08-26 03:31 1 2229 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/59
16 August 2023 2023-08-29 21:21 2023-08-29 23:05 5 3725 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/59
17 Administrators' newsletter – September 2023 2023-09-01 09:21 2023-09-01 09:21 1 3577 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/59
18 I have sent you a note about a page you started 2023-09-06 02:51 2023-09-06 02:52 2 1011 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/59
19 Sep 20: Wikimedia NYC Annual Election Meeting 2023-09-10 02:05 2023-09-10 02:05 1 2576 User talk:Andrevan/Archives/59


Concern regarding Draft:Scott Stedman

Information icon Hello, Andrevan. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Scott Stedman, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 01:02, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – July 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2023).

Administrator changes

added Novem Linguae
removed

Bureaucrat changes

removed MBisanz

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Arbitration

  • Two arbitration cases are currently open. Proposed decisions are expected 5 July 2023 for the Scottywong case and 9 July 2023 for the AlisonW case.
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:57, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Chappaqua Friends Meeting House

Information icon Hello, Andrevan. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Chappaqua Friends Meeting House, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 04:01, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

July 19 WikiWednesday + New York Botanical Garden Edit-a-thon (July 29)

July 19: WikiWednesday @ Prime Produce
WikiWednesday is back in Manhattan!

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our WikiWednesday Salon, with in-person at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan, as well as an online-based participation option. No experience of anything at all is required. All are welcome!

We are proud to announce that monthly free food has returned!

All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct. In addition, to participate in person you should be vaccinated and also be sure to respect others' personal space, and we may limit overall attendance size if appropriate. Prime Produce encourages the wearing of masks when indoors, and especially be mindful of those in your proximity.

7:00 pm - 8:00 pm
(Prime Produce, Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan)
Also online via Zoom
July 29: NYBG Environment of the Bronx Edit-a-thon!
Flyer for the NYBG event

You are also invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our 9th Editathon with the New York Botanical Gardens! Attendees familiar with editing Wikipedia can edit off of a worklist focused on the environment of New York City; as well as, a sub-list focused on the environment of the Bronx. Additionally, LuEsther T. Mertz Library will pull topical media from their collection to assist the editing. You can also learn more and RSVP on the NYBG website here.

Bring your own laptop if you can, the Library can only provide laptops on a first-come, first-served basis. Entrance to the Library is free; when you arrive, alert Security that you are here for the event. Please enter through the Mosholu Entrance at 2950 Southern Boulevard.

12:00pm - 3:00pm
(Mertz Library at the New York Botanical Garden, Bronx)

(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from this list.)

--Wikimedia New York City Team via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:21, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Editor help...

Hi - i'm looking for help to correct / edit a page for an open source technical alliance that has completely rebranded from GENIVI to COVESA. Is it something you could help us with? Carguy62 (talk) 09:54, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I can, but you should read the guidelines on declaring a COI first? Andre🚐 14:59, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Trudy Busch Valentine

Information icon Hello, Andrevan. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Trudy Busch Valentine, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 15:04, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Cornelius P. Rhoads, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page William Galbraith.

(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 06:01, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – August 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2023).

Administrator changes

added Firefangledfeathers
removed

Interface administrator changes

added Novem Linguae

Technical news

Arbitration

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:53, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of noticeboard discussion

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. 2600:8805:C980:9400:651E:9482:536D:FE66 (talk) 21:42, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please be advise you are under a admin noticeboard disput, due to your repeated edits of Alieen Cannon without consensus

WikiWednesday (Aug 23) and Governors Island Wiki-Picnic (Sun Aug 27)

August 23: WikiWednesday @ Prime Produce
WikiWednesday in Manhattan

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our WikiWednesday Salon, with in-person at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan, as well as an online-based participation option. No experience of anything at all is required. All are welcome!

All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct. In addition, to participate in person, you should be vaccinated and also be sure to respect others' personal space, and we may limit overall attendance size if appropriate.

August 27: Annual NYC Wiknic @ Governors Island
Group photo from 2012 Governors Island Wiknic

Additionally, you are invited to the picnic anyone can edit on Governors Island, at Colonel's Row by ArtCrawl Harlem house, as part of the Great North American Wiknic celebrations (and Wikimania satellite events) being held across the continent.

This is the first big summer Wiknic since the 2019 edition and will feature an edit-a-thon focused on Governors Island and ArtCrawl Harlem, Depths of Wikipedia (recently of perpetual stew fame), as well as plenty more food topics drawing on the potluck ethos. All are welcome, new and experienced!

All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct, and don't forget your sunscreen!

(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from this list.)

--Wikimedia New York City Team via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:50, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Trump fake electors plot

I see now, the discussion was closed. My apologies. Edward-Woodrow :) [talk] 18:27, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Andre🚐 18:27, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

On wiki, off wiki

Hi Andrevan. A user of your tenure should know better than to give "follow-the-breadcrumbs" outing threats to other users, as even though you don't explicitly make the connection it is still implied. If there are off-wiki outing/harassment issues that you believe are tied to an on-wiki editor, you should email ArbCom so that they can handle it appropriately. Primefac (talk) 06:14, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, to be clear that is not an outing threat, as there is no personal information or outing information. This is reference to a Wikipedia forum. I will email you the material. Andre🚐 07:33, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In case it's still unclear, I am not threatening to out the user or searching for info by them. They were posting things about me on a Wikipedia forum. Using the same username used here. I am not threatening to out the user or link to that or threatening any sort of personal oppo research. I am asking them to stop personally attacking me offwiki and informing them of that guideline, namely, that that can be somewhat held against them. Andre🚐 07:55, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
But, if you still consider my message to be inappropriate, in light of me emailing you the post and explaining it, I will be happy to amend or remove my post(s), though as you can see, in my opinion I am trying to de-escalate and observe civility, and not making threats. Andre🚐 08:06, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The only thing I will say is that the site you emailed me is not "a Wikipedia forum". It is a forum about Wikipedia, and many Wikipedians participate there, but there is not always a 1:1 connection between editors here and there. I understand your point about the warning, of course, I guess I'm just asking you to be a little bit more vague in the future. Primefac (talk) 06:06, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I believe I understand. Andre🚐 07:12, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You may find this interesting

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Valjean/Why_Crossfire_Hurricane%3F

Valjean (talk) (PING me) 03:07, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'll check it out. But we should probably get together with the other editors and compile a detailed, well-sourced reliable rebuttal to the claims (however poorly understood or poorly argued) that they are making on the talk page. This can form an FAQ or addendum to the article or an essay as well. Andre🚐 20:05, 23 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Categorizing articles

Hello. As per your recent comments on the Editor Assistance page, I was hoping that you could help me resolve a dispute with another editor. Thedarkknightli recently undid an edit I made to Jennifer Connelly's page, citing the following guideline under WP:ETHNICRACECAT: “the ethnicity of grandparents (or other ancestors) is never defining and rarely notable.”

The edit in question can be found here.

As explained on Thedarkknightli's talk page, I'm somewhat confused as to why any category pertaining to ethnicity or ethnic descent would be limited to a person's parents only. His reasoning would make more sense to me if we were strictly talking about nationality, but ethnic descent has generally been understood to be synonymous with lineage. If categories by ethnic descent are limited to just parents (which, again, makes no sense to me), I have to wonder why they even exist in the first place.

In short, if there is any actual merit to the removal of the categories specified here, please confirm and explain why those changes made by Thedarkknightli were necessary. If he appears to have made them in error, however, I'd appreciate your assistance in trying to resolve the dispute. Thank you. Dr. Simon Hurt (talk) 04:01, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sunday: NYC Wiki-Picnic @ Gov Island

August 27: Annual NYC Wiknic @ Governors Island
Group photo from 2012 Governors Island Wiknic

You are invited to the Annual NYC Wiknic, "the picnic anyone can edit" on Governors Island, at Colonel's Row by ArtCrawl Harlem house, as part of the Great North American Wiknic celebrations (and Wikimania satellite events) being held across the continent.

This is the first summer Wiknic since the 2019 edition and will feature an edit-a-thon focused Governors Island and ArtCrawl Harlem, Depths of Wikipedia and perpetual stew, as well as plenty more food. All are welcome, new and experienced!

All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct, and don't forget your sunscreen!

(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from this list.)

--Wikimedia New York City Team via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:31, 26 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

August 2023

I got a comment from you regarding some equal weight thing in editting. This makes no sense as I have not even editted pages in recent months, and in fact the only activity I did recently on wikipedia was to put a very warranted pov warning label on a rather grotesquely biased page that was pushing a fringe narrative. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.131.5.103 (talk) 21:21, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted your vandalism on the Trump fake electors talk page. Just who the hell do you think you are to push a fringe narrative page while accusing others having the same and then vandalizing the post on the talk page so that people can't even talk about it?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.131.5.103 (talk) 21:30, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Drive by IP came here to push that Trump "fake electors" were real. Andre🚐 22:02, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the thought, but since you also participated in your discussion, your close proposal only gives me more pause on such a "compromise" as essentially favoring your favored view as expressed; thanks, but no thanks, on behalf of myself who doesn't agree with the proposed read. A no consensus close might still find that certain things were agreed to in principle, or not agreed to, preserving the status quo of the article and the many years of hard work that contributors have dedicated to creating this obscure corner of the internet, and don't appreciate wikilawyering and gaming of the system to ruleslawyer in new changes to things that have stood for years. - I didn't make a close request; I suggested that we not shut the discussion down for a week or two awaiting an RfC result but continue talking about the proposal. Not personal? Scare quotes implying the compromise was fake, suggesting that it was a result I favoured, the waspish tone, the implication that you are the only people who work hard on articles? 'wililawyering'? 'gaming the system'? 'ruleslawyer'? If you seriously do not see what was offensive and insulting about this response, there really isn't anything to say. Cheers, Last1in (talk) 23:01, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If there wasn't anything to say, I find this discussion puzzling. You and another user who shared a POV tried to use IAR to close the discussion to a compromise without negotiating the points. Hurtful, in my view. Which is why I said what I said, which is not a personal attack at all, but a characterization of your statement that IAR should be used to close to the discussion. I do not know what waspish tone you refer to, but I think you are assuming too much if you think that I said I was the only person who worked hard. The point is we all contributed to the discussion and to suggest that we can simply use IAR to come down the side of your side, is, in my view, offensive. Andre🚐 23:05, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – September 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2023).

Guideline and policy news

  • Following an RfC, TFAs will be automatically semi-protected the day before it is on the main page and through the day after.
  • A discussion at WP:VPP about revision deletion and oversight for dead names found that [s]ysops can choose to use revdel if, in their view, it's the right tool for this situation, and they need not default to oversight. But oversight could well be right where there's a particularly high risk to the person. Use your judgment.

Technical news

Arbitration

  • The SmallCat dispute case has closed. As part of the final decision, editors participating in XfD have been reminded to be careful about forming local consensus which may or may not reflect the broader community consensus. Regular closers of XfD forums were also encouraged to note when broader community discussion, or changes to policies and guidelines, would be helpful.

Miscellaneous

  • Tech tip: The "Browse history interactively" banner shown at the top of Special:Diff can be used to easily look through a history, assemble composite diffs, or find out what archive something wound up in.
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:21, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, Andrevan. Thank you for your work on Chappaqua Friends Meeting House. User:North8000, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

Nice work

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{Re|North8000}}. Please remember to sign your reply with ~~~~. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

North8000 (talk) 02:51, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, North8000! I'll see you around, I'm sure. Have a great evening. Andre🚐 02:52, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sep 20: Wikimedia NYC Annual Election Meeting

September 20: Annual Election & Members Meeting

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our Annual Election & Members Meeting, with in-person at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan, as well as an online-based participation option.

The Members' Meeting is similar to other WikiWednesday meetups, except that its primary function is to elect a new Board of Directors. We will elect five board seats. After being elected, those elected can potentially appoint more seats. We will also have a fun WikiWednesday!

Election info:

  • To run for election or to vote, you must be a dues-paying member of Wikimedia New York City, having renewed in the past 12 months.
  • Voting will be both online, via emailed ballots from the ElectionBuddy service, and in-person.
  • The poll will be open for the 48 hours between 8pm EDT on September 18 and 8pm EDT on September 20.
  • For additional information, please consult the Election FAQ.

Meeting info:

All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct. In addition, to participate in person, you should be vaccinated and also be sure to respect others' personal space, and we may limit overall attendance size if appropriate.

(You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future notifications for NYC-area events by adding or removing your name from this list.)

--Wikimedia New York City Team via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:05, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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