User talk:87.49.147.150

November 2022

Anonymous users from this IP address have been blocked from editing for a period of 2 weeks for persistently making disruptive edits.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Acroterion (talk) 12:08, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

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87.49.147.150 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

I have been blocked on false basis. I reverted an unnecessary change (under leave as is) that was also somewhat sexist in nature and created a talk page to discuss why someone made the change and for them to justify their change and not to change it until @ consensus have been reached. I ask that the person who falsely blocked me be investigated for misussing their privileges to falsely blocking me to protect their person biases and their own vandalisms and hopefully be blocked from Wikipedia for their actions.87.49.147.150 (talk) 12:49, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Demanding the blocking admin be blocked is on the list of examples of bad unblock requests. The burden is on you to obtain consensus for a change, not on others to obtain consensus to keep it out. 331dot (talk) 13:00, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

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This is the latest IP to disrupt Violence against men with unsouirced changes and assertions that there is some sort of misandrist plot against men in general. I gather they think women are behind this, behind violence, and behind incarceration [1] This has been going on for a while. Acroterion (talk) 13:09, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

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87.49.147.150 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

You seem to missunderstand something. I reverted change that was done without consensus. As you said the burden of obtaining is on the one making the change and I stated as much. Go look at the original article. They misused their power to block me and prevent me from revert the change and covering up the fact that made that change without consensus. I am demanding it as per your own rules their actions mandate a block and removal of admin power for abusing it.

Decline reason:

I see no evidence that you were reverting to a consensus version of the page and my quick investigation shows this is not the case. And you've been told once, knock off your demand for stripping an admin of their admin privileges. It's pointless; those of us patrolling unblock requests don't have that sort of power, even if it was justified. Which it clearly wouldn't be, here. Yamla (talk) 23:05, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

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87.49.147.150 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Then you must be blind as bat. Here you go: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1100018088...1122406899 Tambor needlessly changed the line "as victims and perpetrators" to "perpetrators and victims" for no stated reason. The change has been in heavy dispute and instead of seeking consensus they and a cabal of admins, mods and power users have been blocking users and banning them. I simply reverted it back to the original "as victims and perpetrators" as it's completely inappropriate and sexist misandry to give the perpetrator part primacy in a page about men as victims. It should not even be there in the summary. In fact not at all as it's patently false. But either way, Tampor did not seek consensus for this change and only got the people who reverted or tried to talk about on the talk page it blocked and that is definitely against the rules. Now I expect an apology from you for your incompetence and piss poor research. It would have taken you two seconds to verify what I said but you did not bother to do that. Do better. If you wish to do better, then go find the people that can strip that admin if their powers as they clearly are misusing it to promote sexism against men and also the ban users line tampor for their vandalism. If you have any morals at all that is. 87.49.147.150 (talk) 23:26, 17 November 2022 (UTC) 

Decline reason:

Appeals such as this that serve only to attack and cast aspersions against others are automatically declined. I suggest you read WP:GAB as your next appeal will likely be your last chance; if it continues in the same vein, you will lose access to this talk page. Ponyo^{bons mots} 23:41, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

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I will probably regret asking, but who do you think is responsible for violence against men? Martians? Acroterion (talk) 23:29, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

What does that have to do with anything exactly? Are you trying to victim blame? The gender of the perpetrators is irrelevant to victim status of men.

But if you must know, women actually. I can provide a vast host of studies that shows this.

Systematic reviews and meta-analyses on domestic violence suggest that women are just as likely (if not more) to perpetrate Intimate Partner Violence (IPV) as men are and the literature is also solid on the fact that domestic violence is not part of a patriarchal system that subordinates women. Despite this, there remain very few domestic violence shelters for men

Archer 2000

Meta-analysis done by the journal Psychological Bulletin found that women are more likely to commit an act of physical aggression against an intimate partner

Women were slightly more likely (d = -.05) than men to use one or more act of physical aggression and to use such acts more frequently. Men were more likely (d = . 15) to inflict an injury, and overall, 62% of those injured by a partner were women Fiebert 2014 A HUGE collection of 343 scholarly investigations (270 empirical studies and 73 systematic reviews) shows that women are as physically aggressive as men (or more) in their relationships with their spouses or opposite-sex partners Aggregate sample size exceeded 440,850 people Davis 2010 When you aggregate domestic-violence related suicides and homicides caused by intimate partners, men die of domestic violence related deaths more than women “When domestic violence related suicides are combined with domestic violence homicides, the total numbers of domestic violence related deaths are higher for males than females.” Williams et al. 2005 “Studies of undergraduate college students found that men sustained higher levels of moderate violence than women with severe violence being rare for both women and men (Katz, Kuffel, & Coblentz, 2002) and 29% of males and 35% of females reported perpetrating physical aggression; 12.5% of the males and 4.5% of the females reported receiving severe physical aggression; 14% of females reported that they were the sole perpetrators of aggression — injuries were sustained by 8.4% of males and 5% of females (Hines & Saudino, 2002). These rates, which suggest gender symmetry in the perpetration of relationship violence, are not unique and Fiebert (2004) has amassed a bibliography of 159 peer-reviewed publications finding equal or greater aggression by females than males. The total collected sample is greater than 109,000. An earlier version was published in 1997 (Fiebert, 1997).” Carney et al. 2007 “As our discussion demonstrates, female perpetrated abuse in intimate relationships is at least as common as male abuse, often extends to the same degree of severity, can result in serious negative outcomes for male and female victims, and seems to reflect a common set of background causes. Contrary to early socio-political explanations, which proposed that women's use of aggression reflected primarily, or solely, self-defense strategies in response to male initiated abuse, women are known to commit unilateral abuse.” Hamel 2012 Study which collected the LARGEST set of meta-analyses on domestic violence by The Partner Abuse State of Knowledge Project (PASK) which considered over 12,000 studies and aggregated 1,700 of them into their analysis confirmed that women are more likely to perpetrate domestic violence than men “Among large population samples, 57.9% of IPV reported was bi-directional, 42% unidirectional; 13.8% of the unidirectional violence was male to female (MFPV), 28.3% was female to male (FMPV)...Among school and college samples, percentage of bidirectional violence was 51.9%; 16.2% was MFPV and 31.9% was FMPV” More than one in four women (28.3%) and one in five men (21.6%) reported perpetrating physical violence in an intimate relationship “Male and female IPV perpetrated from similar motives – primarily to get back at a partner for emotionally hurting them, because of stress or jealousy, to express anger and other feelings that they could not put into words or communicate, and to get their partner’s attention.” Hamel et al. 2007 A review of the literature on sex differences in controlling behavior found: “When comparing men's and women's use of controlling behaviors, research using nonselected samples has found that t here are no differences in their overall use...The research reviewed suggests that there are no consistent sex differences in the use of controlling behavior and that even in samples selected for high rates of male aggression, women sometimes also report using comparative frequencies of controlling behavior.” Straus et al. 2006 “With these limitations in mind, the results of this study suggest important conclusions about two widely held beliefs: that partner violence is an almost uniquely male crime, and that when men hit their partners it is primarily to dominate women, whereas partner violence by women is an act of self defense or an act of desperation in response to male dominance and brutality. These beliefs were not supported by the results of this study. Instead, we found, as have many other studies, about equal rates of assaulting a dating partner by male and female students. Our investigation of risk factors also produced results that contradict the male dominance/female self-defense belief. The relationship to minor assaults of all 21 of the risk factors, including score on the Dominance scale, was parallel for men and women. For severe assaults, of the 12 risk factors found to be associated, we found no significant difference between men and women in nine of them, again including Dominance. Or putting it the other way around, 75% of the risk factors that were found to be associated with severely assaulting a dating partner were parallel for men and women. It may be more than a coincidence that our review of previous research also found that about 75% of the variables related to partner violence were related for both men and women...In short, partner violence is more a gender-inclusive family system problem than a problem of a patriarchal social system that enforces male dominance by violence.” Domestic violence between men and women therefore tends to happen for the same reasons as opposed to fundamentally different reasons as is oftentimes claimed by feminists Brown 2004 Researcher in 2004 finds that going by several key criteria known to establish the “battered woman” defense, abused men fit the profile better than abused women which is important to consider since many people who murder their spouses are often trapped in abusive relationships themselves and their murder is thus seen as either being retaliatory or in self-defense “All of the evidence indicates that abused men fit the theory of the "battered woman" better than abused women do.” Straus 2011 Meta-analytic review of 91 empirical studies finds that women commit higher levels of severe or ‘clinical level’ domestic assaults: “The median percentage of men who severely assaulted a partner was 5.1%, compared to a median of 7.1% for severe assaults by the women in these studies. The median percentage that the rate of severe assaults by women was of the rate of severe assaults by men is 145%, which indicates that almost half again more women than men severely attacked a partner.” Straus et al. 1989 Analysis of two surveys consisting of 5,768 couples finds that large numbers of non-abusive men are severely assaulted by their female partners, namely that women are over 2.7 times as likely to perpetrate severe aggression against non-violent men than men are to perpetrate severe aggression against non-violent women In terms of dating violence, the disparity is even larger with women being 125 times as likely to perpetrate severe aggression against a non-violent male partner than men are to perpetrate severe aggression against non-violent female partners

I believ an apology is in order from all of you, removal of my false block, the changes reverted, including my talk at the page and banning of the misandrist power users that have been vandalising the page for the last few months and the mods and admins that have protected and enabled them.

Your ability to edit this talk page has been revoked as an administrator has identified your talk page edits as inappropriate and/or disruptive.

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 Ponyo^{bons mots} 23:53, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

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