User talk:Ab207/Archives/2022/May

Mantra

This is not a film series. It is listed at list of Indian film series. Mangala (2011) only had the same director, but that doesn't make it a film series. Mantra 2 had no connection to first film either. This source says it is, but it is copied info from Wikipedia. DareshMohan (talk) 03:25, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

@DareshMohan: You're right, I guess. -- Ab207 (talk) 06:06, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

2.0 Budget

Ab207. Please search yourself. Which is the highest budget INDIAN FILM. It's robot 2.0 , not RRR. The budget of robot 2.0 is 570 crores and RRR is 550 crores. Raaj thakur.999 (talk) 09:09, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Raaj thakur.999. Please see this source, the film's director Shankar himself said that the budget is "Rs 400 to Rs 450 crore". -- Ab207 (talk) 09:14, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Magaadu (1990 film)

Can you add the role names and Zamin Ryot review? Sources are lacking. DareshMohan (talk) 12:18, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Chiranjeevi filmography - FL collab?

This could be worked upon to become one like Mahesh Babu filmography. And we could also do others' filmography lists as well? — DaxServer (t · m · c) 09:43, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

DaxServer, I've long thought about this. Before proceeding, we should find a reliable source which comprehensively lists nearly all the films which Chiranjeevi appeared (see Ref#9 of M. G. Ramachandran filmography, Ref#40 of Rajinikanth filmography). Else, it will be a near impossible task to source all the 150+ films. Once that is done, prose and formatting should be easy -- Ab207 (talk) 15:16, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Could you also create the missing articles such as Billa Ranga? DareshMohan (talk) 00:16, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

@Ab207: Here is a list of all of Chiranjeevi's Telugu films till Andrarivadu. DareshMohan (talk) 08:59, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, DareshMohan. I'll see if I can find two reviews for Billa Ranga -- Ab207 (talk) 09:41, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Hey, DaxServer. There's a book which covers his career comprehensively: Megastar: Chiranjeevi and Telugu Cinema After N.T. Rama Rao by S. V. Srinivas, 2009, published by Oxford University Press. Do check it once, was able to download it's PDF quite easily -- Ab207 (talk) 10:02, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Hey there! Cool thanks! Looks like an interesting read over the coming next few weeks — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:40, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Siddharth on "Pan-Indian" films

See what you can add from here. Should the article be retitled Pan-Indian cinema? Kailash29792 (talk) 12:22, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

@Kailash29792: Thanks for the source. I'm neutral on the title but it feels stretched to call it a cinema without scholarly/academic sources. -- Ab207 (talk) 12:42, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Why do they add an 'a' to his name (Siddardha) here, here, here, and here? DareshMohan (talk) 07:32, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

@DareshMohan: Initially, that's how his name was spelt in Telugu. But its only Siddharth now-- Ab207 (talk) 08:02, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

So, should it be changed in that article? DareshMohan (talk) 08:05, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Not necessary in my view -- Ab207 (talk) 08:26, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Jack N' Jill

Recreate the page on May 20 if it releases. (seems likely to release given the trailer is here). DareshMohan (talk) 03:05, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, we can request WP:REFUND if it receive 3 or so reliable reviews -- Ab207 (talk) 08:37, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Ninagoskara

Is there a Kannada film review database (like Viggy)? This article is lacking. I can't find anything about Devara Maga either. Hesitant to PROD them given their cast list. DareshMohan (talk) 10:54, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

DareshMohan, not very familiar with online Kannada sources but they likely exist in offline/in Kannada. You may tag it with {{More citations needed}} -- Ab207 (talk) 11:06, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Salaar and Prabhas

Hi, it is regarding these changes [1] [2] you are familiar with [3] [4]. Is it true that the film is being shot in Telugu only? I mean any news on this. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:11, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Hey, Fylindfotberserk. It's probably shot only in Telugu but unable to find a source to confirm that. Sources do refer it to as bilingual but no makers did not announce that explicitly. This situation is similar to Thalapathy 66 -- Ab207 (talk) 10:58, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

OK thanks. I'm not going to revert it. Let's see if somebody else has a different opinion. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:24, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Bojjala Gopala Krishna Reddy

He passed away today. We could collab for an RD nomination to the homepage? Views section seem to be a bit of unwritten rule or something — DaxServer (t · m · c) 11:37, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

DaxServer, that's the trickiest part in a politician's RD. I think the idea is to have coverage beyond the basic stuff. Let's see what we can make out of this -- Ab207 (talk) 12:20, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

I don't think I can contribute much. I'm a bit tired to make content research, need some rest. If you're able to improve the article, please do so :) — DaxServer (t · m · c) 11:00, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Jayamma Panchayathi

Were you going to create this article? DareshMohan (talk) 08:07, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

DareshMohan, I would eventually if nobody else does. You can go ahead in case you are interested, I'd help expanding it -- Ab207 (talk) 08:13, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Draft is here. DareshMohan (talk) 03:49, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Added "Highest-grossing films in Tamil Nadu"

I have added "Highest Grossing films in Tamil Nadu" in List of highest-grossing Tamil films, can you please review? I was not too sure thats the right page, but I couldnt find an appropriate page hence added it there. Request your time to take a look at it. Copying Jayanthkumar123 since he is active in that page. -Shark80 (talk)

Hello, Shark80. Since this is a content-related issue, the article's talk page would be a better venue so that other interested editors can participate. Personally, I think there's a case to add "Highest-grossing Tamil films in Tamil Nadu" as the page is dedicated to films originally made in Tamil. -- Ab207 (talk) 07:06, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Ayngaran (film)

In the unlikely event that this film releases on May 5th, please recreate the article. DareshMohan (talk) 05:17, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

DareshMohan, if it releases, and gains reliable reviews, then we can request a WP:REFUND, as noted by the closing admin -- Ab207 (talk) 05:50, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

The film is released, yet it is still in the draftspace (Draft:Ayngaran (film)). Since you are the one who nominated the page for deletion, you will have a say in reviving the article. DareshMohan (talk) 03:55, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

@DareshMohan: Since 3+ reliable reviews are cited now, you can expect no objection from me. Cheers -- Ab207 (talk) 06:44, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Articles

Please create an article for Maa Aavida Meda Ottu Mee Aavida Chala Manchidi (MAMOMACM) with Zamin Ryot review. DareshMohan (talk) 04:15, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

References

Also create an article for Panchadara Chilaka (Srikanth and Kausalya starrer) when you get the time. DareshMohan (talk) 10:15, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

@DareshMohan It would be very nice to move these requests to a subpage in WP:ICTF so others might also help? ;) — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:17, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

CBFC

Sorry for bombarding you with messages. Anyways, can you check whether Ratha Sarithiram (Tamil version of Rakta Charitra) is straight or dubbed per CBFC. DareshMohan (talk) 02:09, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

@DareshMohan: Yeah, that's alright but please don't mind if I take some time to reply. I'm unable to find on which platform the Tamil version is streaming. There's a pirated version on YT but it doesn't carry any certificate -- Ab207 (talk) 05:47, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Check CBFC certificate of Tamil film Tihar (straight or dubbed). DareshMohan (talk) 09:35, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

@DareshMohan: Cannot find the print of Tamil version online -- Ab207 (talk) 08:06, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Avakai Biryani

Rewrite the production section of this article. DareshMohan (talk) 04:07, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Will do when I'm free -- Ab207 (talk) 08:06, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Old films

Can you go over the notable films like some of Mohanlal and Mammootty's films from the 80s and add some English sources from a Google search (otherwise they might get deleted). DareshMohan (talk) 09:37, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

@DareshMohan: That's a difficult task to do, don't think I can commit to that at this point -- Ab207 (talk) 10:52, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Orey Rikshaw (1995)

Create an article for this film. There is a good source here. Source here. DareshMohan (talk) 12:00, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

@DareshMohan: Thanks for the sources, it also won Nandi Award iirc -- Ab207 (talk) 12:05, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks (so surprised there is no article). I think it won a Nandi Award for Best Character Actress and for Best Male Playback Singer. Just ctrl-f the document.

There are other sources here and here. The Telugu wikipedia has this article here. DareshMohan (talk) 12:11, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

DareshMohan yeah, I'll be on it -- Ab207 (talk) 12:23, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

While you get free time also create Kalisi Naduddam (no rush). Sources: here, here, and here. DareshMohan (talk) 02:35, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Amavasya Chandrudu

Can you update the article with this review and update the Telugu character names. (Sorry for all the messages) DareshMohan (talk) 12:23, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Character

Is Jaison Varghese notable? DareshMohan (talk) 07:00, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

@DareshMohan: Don't think it is. Characters with a single appearance don't warrant stand alone article in any case per WP:NOPAGE (see this discussion for Titanic characters). It can be a redirect to the film article at best -- Ab207 (talk) 07:11, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Okay, maybe put in through AfD because of its sourcing. DareshMohan (talk) 07:16, 21 May 2022 (UTC)r

Yep -- Ab207 (talk) 07:21, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Songs

Wondering if Pistah (song) and Vilaiyaadu Mankatha are notable? Also why was Nakka Mukka deleted? A simple Google News search beings up so much. When The Times of India used the song, they won the Cannes Gold Lion. The song was also featured at the 2011 Cricket World Cup. DareshMohan (talk) 08:55, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

@DareshMohan: Frankly, there was nothing in this two para stub article to warrant a stand-alone article. The film article itself was too short.

The bar of sub-articles like soundtracks, songs, and awards is actually very high when WP:NALBUM, WP:NSONG, WP:NLIST, WP:NOPAGE are strictly applied. I'm sorry if this comes out to be too harsh but many editors simply don't understand notability and just want to create more and more articles for their favourite stars/movies. -- Ab207 (talk) 09:36, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the much needed clarification. So Pistah (song) and Vilaiyaadu Mankatha are not notable, correct? DareshMohan (talk) 09:41, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

@DareshMohan: Yeah, even if they are, permastubs like them should be merged/redirected to main articles whenever possible as they wouldn't warrant a separate page -- Ab207 (talk) 09:48, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Beast

Ab207, I saw your edit. If you think Sanilk is a blog site, can you take this source from Times of India? The latest TOI article gives ₹240 crore (equivalent to ₹254 crore or US$30 million in 2023) for Beast. Thank you Ranjith207 (talk) 06:06, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Ranjith207. Times of India's figures are disupted at Talk:Beast_(2022_Indian_film)#Box Office Inflation. I'd personally wait for until the film ends its run, and use final figures published by various sources -- Ab207 (talk) 08:33, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Ab207 I also found a source from Indian Express article. Please go through it. Thank you Ranjith207 (talk) 08:38, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, okay -- Ab207 (talk) 08:44, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

@Ab207: Can you take any action using these sources? Thank you Ranjith207 (talk) 09:09, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Ranjith207, I'd wait for the final collections as the current figures are disputed -- Ab207 (talk) 11:08, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

OK. Thank you Ranjith207 (talk) 11:28, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

@Ab207: Can I add Beast BO figure in List of Tamil films of 2022? — Ranjith207 (talk) 13:55, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

@Ranjith207: You can do that yourself but I advise you to be prepared to defend your position in case someone reverts it as per Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. Regards -- Ab207 (talk) 14:11, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Ab207 Can you add more information in Beast_(2022_Indian_film)#Box office section. - Ranjith207 (talk) 07:40, 22 May 2022 (UTC Ab207

Jigelu Rani

BTW, please don't try to delete or redirect Jigelu Rani. Please"keep" this article. Its my request. - Ranjith207 (talk) 11:29, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Hey, Ranjith207. Since the article has been already nominated for deletion, any discussion about it's outcome is expected to take place at that page, so that the closing admin can look at them before closing the discussion.

I'd advise you to go through WP:NSONG carefully and see how it passes the requirement and why it needs a stand alone article. I personally don't think it does, hence my !vote. Regards -- Ab207 (talk) 11:46, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

@Ab207: This is bad luck for me. Can you help me to improve the article. I don't want it to be deleted. - Ranjith207 (talk) 12:52, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

@Ranjith207: Hey, don't take it too personally. The information about the song can still be covered in the soundtrack artile. I'm sure there are plenty of other topics which you can contribute. Cheers -- Ab207 (talk) 13:03, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

@Ab207: soundtrack, OK. But separate article has another power I think. - Ranjith207 (talk) 13:06, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

@Ranjith207: I disagree with the notion that having a separate article gives some kind of "power." There are plenty of old songs without article which are 100 times better than some crappy modern songs with articles. Having an article is only a technical restriction, so it should not be taken too seriously -- Ab207 (talk) 13:12, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

@Ab207: OK. Thank you Ranjith207 (talk) 13:15, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Acharya

Ab207 please see this 1, 2, 3,4, 5 sources. These source says Pooja Hegde is an cameo. Please allow me to add extended cameo application in cast section. Also to change "cameo appearance in the item song Saana Kastam" to "special appearance in the item song Saana Kastam". Thank you Ranjith207 (talk) 12:01, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Ranjith207, Oh, no objection changing Cassandra's appearance to special but calling Hegde a cameo doesn't makes much sense when she has the third-highest credit (unless you want to relegate her to the end of the cast section)

Eg. Gwyneth Paltrow literally appears for 20 sec in Spider-Man: Homecoming but it's not labelled a cameo since it's a starring role -- Ab207 (talk) 12:44, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Ab207 I don't want to relegate her to the end of the cast section. But only to add "extended cameo appearance". - Ranjith207 (talk) 12:47, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

@Ranjith207: That's my point actually. Writing that way is self-contradictory. Any type of cameo appearances go in the end, else they are just regular roles.

Instead, you may add in Acharya (2022 film)#Casting that Hegde described her a role as a cameo so and so. That's acceptable I guess -- Ab207 (talk) 12:55, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

Ab207 Thanks - Ranjith207 (talk) 13:47, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

it's vs its

Use its instead of it's. it's means it is. DareshMohan (talk) 21:53, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

DareshMohan What's frustrating is that I'm well aware of the usage of these variants. But I keep mistyping it every often, will be cautious from now -- Ab207 (talk) 06:46, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Orey Rikshaw

Nice work! Two things:

1. What do you mean by "pivotal" song? Can you add that "Naa Raktham Tho Naduputhanu Rikshawnu" was not originally composed for the film. It is a private song.
2. On the year 1995 for Nandi Award for Best Lyricist, it mentions some other film. Was the award reassigned? Was the Nandi Award for Best Male Playback Singer for 1995 not reassigned?

Thanks. DareshMohan (talk) 22:04, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

@DareshMohan:

1. Argh, this is a mistake on my part: misread private as pivotal. Thanks for pointing this out
2. The article is not correct, both Srinivas and Gaddar won in 1995. Posani Krishna Murali also turned down his Nandi Award recently but the Govt didn't re-assigned it even though Posani was openly against them. I'm guessing the awardees don't have an option to reject the award -- Ab207 (talk) 06:43, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Oo Antava Oo Oo Antava

Ab207 I created AfD for Oo Antava Oo Oo Antava. Please vote. My coverage: It does not meet WP:NSONG independently. The sources provide coverage to this non-notable song only because of the Samantha, but it is nothing outside that. It also reeks of WP:COI. Thank you Ranjith207 (talk) 16:09, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Vande Mataram (1985 film)

Can you add links? Is Saichand in the article Sai Chand and is Ramaraju this Ramaraju? DareshMohan (talk) 19:58, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

@DareshMohan: Haven't watch the film, so I'm not sure actually. Really confusing because many South Indian actors go by single names -- Ab207 (talk) 06:38, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Rename

Since you are an experienced user (Help:Rename), please rename "Category:S. Thaman albums" to "Category:Thaman S albums" and "Category:Films scored by S. Thaman" to "Category:Films scored by Thaman S". DareshMohan (talk) 17:53, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

@DareshMohan: Simple, need to a raise a request at WP:CFDS giving a valid reason (WP:C2D to match the parent article in this case). Opened a request there but you can do it yourself in future -- Ab207 (talk) 18:00, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Aahvaanam

Aahvaanam or Aahwaanam, which is the correct title? DareshMohan (talk) 22:53, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Both can be used I guess; Aha uses Aahvaanam -- Ab207 (talk) 05:18, 27 May 2022 (UTC)