User talk:Ali0289

May 2012

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Subway (restaurant). When removing content, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the content has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. DBaK (talk) 18:57, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Subway (restaurant)

Based on your own edit summary you have a clear conflict of interest with regards to editing this page. Before deleting properly sourced material from the article I strongly recommend discussing the matter at the article's Talk page. Doniago (talk) 13:16, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

May 2012

Please do not add or change content without verifying it by citing reliable sources, as you did to Subway (restaurant) . Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Also, I strongly recommend that you review Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy, linked to above, as you appear to be editing in violation of said policy. The fact that you are not sourcing your information lends credence to this concern. Thank you. -- Doniago (talk) 15:14, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Much of this information on the page is incorrect and I am trying to update it, while learning how to use references and sources for (mainly from subway.com). McDonald's page reflects accurate company information by someone at their headquarters who updates their Wiki page so we are trying to do the same. Please do not remove my updated content or please explain to me how I update if I do not have a reference for any updated info from our end.Ali0289 (talk) 15:43, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Information should not be added to Wikipedia articles unless it is verifiable. It isn't enough that the information is true, we need a source provided. Subway's website is not an ideal source either, as noted in WP:PRIMARY. Especially as you have a clear COI I would have to advise against using it as your source of information. If you do not have a reliable source for your information, then I would recommend not adding it at this time. You are of course welcome to discuss this with other editors at the article's Talk page as well. What the McDonald's page is using is immaterial. See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS; just because one article is doing something does not mean that it is correct and should be emulated. It is just as likely that what's going on there needs to be reviewed and possibly corrected. If your information does not reflect Wikipedia policy I will remove it. The burden is on you to ensure that information you add is compliant with Wikipedia policy, though I am happy to address any questions or concerns you might have. Doniago (talk) 16:18, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So say I want to change the following:

"Most Subway restaurants in Muslim countries offer a halal menu. There are also at least two Subway restaurants in the United States that do the same, three in Canada, and over one hundred in the United Kingdom."

to

"In Muslim countries many Subway franchisees follow local dietary preferences and only serve food that is considered to be halal, or permitted. There are also about one hundred locations in the United Kingdom that do the same."

The first part of text does not have a reference so I should be able to delete it and replace it with the second text. The second text more accurately reflects our food in Muslim countries. What am I supposed to do if I don't have an article stating this? What is the reliable source?? I understand when you say that we need to cite everything but what if we don't have a citation? It's not right for the content to have to stay on the page just because we don't have a reference to back up the ACCURATE content. Otherwise there is no point in outside visitors looking at the Subway page if we know some of the content is not accurate.Ali0289 (talk) 17:39, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Technically, no, you shouldn't be replacing unsourced text with unsourced text; you should be replacing it with sourced text. If you know the text is incorrect and it is unsourced, you're allowed to outright delete it or (more politely) insert a {{cn}} tag, which will indicate that the text needs a source. But replacing unsourced text with other unsourced text isn't really an appropriate way to handle the problem because other editors have no way of knowing that you're correcting the information...there's still no way to verify it at that point. If there's no reliable source for information, then it shouldn't be included; it doesn't matter whether the information is accurate at that point. There's also an argument to be made that if information can't be reliably sourced then perhaps it's not significant enough for inclusion in WP in any case. I hope this helps. Doniago (talk) 18:48, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In response to your feedback

I see you jumped in at the deep-end. Don't worry. I'm sending you an invitation to the Teahouse. Come on over and have a chat. It's the place for new editors to get support in all things Wikipedia.

Media-Hound 'D 3rd P^) (talk) 18:00, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Come and have a chat in the Teahouse

Hello! Ali0289, you are invited to join other new editors and friendly hosts in the Teahouse. An awesome place to meet people, ask questions and learn more about Wikipedia. Please join us! Media-Hound 'D 3rd P^) (talk) 18:01, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Subway

Hi Ali. I'm a fan of Subway myself and I'm going to whip up a better article. If Subway's PR team is interested in supporting the effort, probably one of the better ways to participate is by getting someone to share your coverage reports in proper citation templates, so it's easy for us to incorporate information from the media. Corporate 00:14, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]